I forked my affiliates, they sit like Gollums

**freetraff** · 21-06-06

A real puzzle. And if there are real natural-born affiliates, then only you can help me with advice.

BRIEF.

I am incredibly talented and created good Internet marketing tool. To give it real spin off effect I integrated AutoPromotion concept into it = all people who use my tool can automatically promote their affiliate links on the pages of all their web sites, and it is great as you can get commissions from 2nd tier.

BOASTING IS OVER. HERE COMES THE PROBLEM

I was not making big affiliate boom, but already saw one bad trend. The affiliates are sitting on the tool. I understand that my tool gives big advantages to those who use it, and they can kill their competitors via properly using this tool.

But I think the autopromotion is also a huge advantage. You are all affiliates. What can be better than a lazy source of 2-tier commissions that come from all pages of the sites of the users whom they brought?!

THEN WHY THE HECK ARE THE AFFILIATES SO SELFISH?

I need to invent something to give them a nice kick. I think if they see someone big making the first promo of the tool, they will have nothing else but start firing the offer on their bases. That will be big rat races.

But before one big affiliate breaks the dam, others will be sitting on it like Gollums and that 'my precious' attitude is killing my nerves.

I have 100% trust that after you have read all this, something interesting can come to your mind. How to give the affiliates a nice kick, because the idea of creating too many competitors with that tool is putting me backwards in their eyes. Please PM me any idea that came to your head, I will reward you - I promise. Because good ideas need to be rewarded.

**OLBG** · 21-06-06

I think you (and your tool) are on another planet to me

**deano6410** · 21-06-06

Agree with Antony on this one.

p.s Has it been a good World Cup for OLBG thus far Antony? Hoping one day that I can compete with your SERPS in Google, but still playing the lottery just incase

**monk-i** · 21-06-06

This seems a bit too much self promotion. Seems a way to get affiliates interested to go get the tool in all honesty.

Nice try though...

Think your trying it out on the wrong guys in this forum!

**freetraff** · 21-06-06

Thanks for responding. I am very glad to hear your opinion on this, so don't feel shy to shed more ideas - I need your help and opinion.

I think you (and your tool) are on another planet to me

Can you share more details please. Is the tool too complicated? Or the concept itself? If this is fully outlandish, just say it. I want to know what makes you feel indifferent to your heart.

Agree with Antony on this one.

p.s Has it been a good World Cup for OLBG thus far Antony? Hoping one day that I can compete with your SERPS in Google, but still playing the lottery just incase

Argentina : Netherlands. Game rocks! Sad I am not there, but I'll visit another Cup.

This seems a bit too much self promotion. Seems a way to get affiliates interested to go get the tool in all honesty.

Nice try though...

Think your trying it out on the wrong guys in this forum!

Don't want to try on you. Just need some help. You see, I am very good at creating tools. And I can prove my tools work. And I was very happy to introduce the autopromotion consept in it to help my affiliates. But seems like the approach to giving the info is not hitting many affiliates. Most of mine are those who dwell on IM forums and love good tools.

And I need a new level. Because 100% the tool works. I am helping some of my affiliates to get their sites up, and in exchange they give JV promo. But the first big JV promo will come only in 30-45 days - in educational ebook shared on some bases of good JVers.

And being frank I want to generating new level of money with my tool much faster.

Knowing this picture I would gladdy take all suggestions on how to make my approach much easier for people, cause I think the core of it is very good and people shoul like it.

Returning to too much self promotion. What would you cut out in your opinion? I mean not this thread as this is fair ask-a-helper I'd be glad to get some affiliate advice. If you wish, that can be PM or post here.

**pricethat** · 21-06-06

From all of your other posts you do strike me as charmed by the get rich schemes and the buck the system multi level, you too can share this great secret type nonsense. I am not sure if it is a culture thing or what, but moving onwards, are you completely stupid or something?

Affiliates will give any tool a try mostly, most wont spend a penny, just picking up whatever they can find free, in large because they know they can find things mostly free on the net and if you satisfy their worries about waisting their own time on some daft piece of software then they will give it a go. It does not matter to them if it works or not mostly, use it on a site, give it a go etc.

But this is where i think you must need a brain transplant or something, IF your software or tool is as good as you say it is, why the hell would anyone want to tell the whole world that they ranked well because of your software? So they can all go and compete with them. The value of a well ranked page in terms of sales can be 1000's more than a few measly dollars that you provide in sales commission. The answer is staring you in the face, either that or people think it is a complete waist of time and cant be assed in giving it a mention.

Yes it is your precious, yes you love it, but that never meant anything in the world. My advice if anything is quit with all this downline nonsense, sell it for what it is as an actual professional product and quit with the oooh this is great, this will rock your world bollox.

Sounds harsh but i think it would probably help you, make a professional nice product information site, pitch it for a few hundred dollars a copy or something, not as some spammy piece of ****e that no one trusts.

**deano6410** · 21-06-06

Spot on.

We should probably stop replying to this post, it is only going to give him more publicity.

**freetraff** · 22-06-06

Sounds harsh but i think it would probably help you, make a professional nice product information site, pitch it for a few hundred dollars a copy or something, not as some spammy piece of ****e that no one trusts.

Harsh but seems like true. I have new design coming next week - more software approach, plus price split for three version - to mount three different niches.

If I would give a more solid, software looking approach of software type site in design and marketing, will the site win in the eyes of affiliates?

I am finishing link exchange on several web sites for my clients and will post them and demos (acutually lives - because that will be real sites). Do you think the proofs will help?

PLUS

Am I right saying that affiliates just look to get some solid offer, and don't care about all that tech details. The tool - its proofs of work - solid looks = and they are faster for the deal? Comment on this if I am missing something.

Spot on.

We should probably stop replying to this post, it is only going to give him more publicity.

deano6410, I want to get some advice here: real case. But if you think that this is beraking the regulations of this forum, please report to the mods and they will take the decision - I will accept it.

But before that if people want to share some advice, and do that from the heart - don't disregard their wish.

BTW your previous answer cleared some things for me too, and in any case thatnk for that.