Murdoch v Google?

[thebusiness]

There's been a lot of talk and rumour surrounding Murdoch's snipes at Google for stealing his content (his words, no mine). Now it looks like he might be forming an alliance with microsoft.
BBC - dot.life: Microsoft and Murdoch: Teaming up to bash Google?

Any thoughts? Personally I don't think he'll succeed unless all publishers follow suit.

[Brendon]

Yeah, be interesting if G bans all NI IPs from accessing their index, since they aren't being paid for helping all the journos do their story research. I think the rest of the smaller news generating world is just waiting to have the party when it happens.

Is losing The Sun and The NOTW from their index / news service going to destroy Google, or help promote other news sources? Hmmmm

Grab the popcorn, this could be awesome to watch. I like mine salted, thanks

[findlite]

I'd love to see Murdoch try and bash Google........

Try being the operative word.....

[LawyerAffiliate]

I was interested by this article on a similar note:

A question of ownership: Conservative's key support will play David Cameron to their advantage | Business | The Observer

[kitbag.com]

There's been a lot of talk and rumour surrounding Murdoch's snipes at Google for stealing his content (his words, no mine). Now it looks like he might be forming an alliance with microsoft.
BBC - dot.life: Microsoft and Murdoch: Teaming up to bash Google?

Any thoughts? Personally I don't think he'll succeed unless all publishers follow suit.

I agree. Can't see what he's hoping to do here (well I can, just can't see how he think this is a good move.

I watched an interview with someone from the BBC when she was asked whether they may ever charge for news access (BBC news online is huge). The obvious answer was .... "we already do" ....... it's called the TV license. So, if I was BBC I would be rubbing me hands right about now.

Think Murdoch onto a loser here. If people can get something for free (legitimately and legally in this case) then they will. It's not as though BBC and many many others don't do a good job of getting quality news out is it.

Very strange. Unless he's just doing it for the PR etc?

John F

[thebusiness]

Very strange. Unless he's just doing it for the PR etc?

I guess we'll find out eventually?

On another note, I wonder if it's a coincidence that Murdoch makes most of his money from TV and Google just happen to have a platform (you tube) which could ultimately be a threat?

[Stavros]

If I understand this right Murdoch is worried because Google is 'stealing' his content, i.e., they're aggregating it along with other publishers on the news.google.co.uk portal? Is this what his problem is?

Am I alone in thinking that if I want to see the latest news headlines I go to the source... by this I mean the BBC, Times or Daily Mail news websites (or whatever) rather than search a portal like Google for a news story? Personally I never use Google for the latest news.

Or am I just completely mad?

[matty281k]

I really doubt the online newspaper sites would suffer, how many times do you ever search google for news, you cant its NEWS? you dont know the news until you read the newspaper website(unless you come from the future)

If you want to read cheap celeb gossip you type thesun.co.uk and if you something of more quality you go to the guardian.co.uk or whatever you might like to read.

You dont go to google and type "jordan is out of the jungle" because you wouldnt know this until you goto thesun.co.uk

[Stavros]

I really doubt the online newspaper sites would suffer, how many times do you ever search google for news, you cant its NEWS? you dont know the news until you read the newspaper website(unless you come from the future)

If you want to read cheap celeb gossip you type thesun.co.uk and if you something of more quality you go to the guardian.co.uk or whatever you might like to read.

You dont go to google and type "jordan is out of the jungle" because you wouldnt know this until you goto thesun.co.uk

My point exactly

[Brendon]

>> You dont go to google and type "jordan is out of the jungle" because you wouldnt know this until you goto thesun.co.uk

Unless you see it on TV, or bbc.co.uk or Twitter or MSN news or hear it on the radio, or someone just tells you, or you get it from any of the other sources of information and news that Murdoch doesn't own

[msg2004]

I've used the the internet fror many, many years - av from memoryit may have been 1998 as I got y first bravd vew car ever, a Ford Mondeo 2:5st in Pavter black, with sunroof, air/con, remote radio, cd, you name it, she had it

Sorry about that = LOL

Ourson arrived from work one day & I asked im a question re F15E - he totld me to look up 'Google' - i said what - the rest is hisory - Goolge is King!

[Smartphone]

I really doubt the online newspaper sites would suffer, how many times do you ever search google for news, you cant its NEWS? you dont know the news until you read the newspaper website(unless you come from the future)

If you want to read cheap celeb gossip you type thesun.co.uk and if you something of more quality you go to the guardian.co.uk or whatever you might like to read.

You dont go to google and type "jordan is out of the jungle" because you wouldnt know this until you goto thesun.co.uk

If a friend told me that Michael Jackson had just died, I would Google it. If I was researching a company that I am buying shares in I would type their name into Google news (and expect the WSJ to appear amongst others). I wouldnt search twitter, I wouldnt expect the BBC to know/cover everything and I wouldnt just want the opinion/version of events from one journalist from a government funded news source.

Regarding Murdoch's decision, it will be good for "the rest of us". Six month old news articles sometimes rank well for competitive terms, even though the news item isn't relevant anymore. So, let's pray for the de-indexing of all news websites.

[kitbag.com]

Interesing article here from Hitwise on this, seems to back up a lot of thoughts and concerns that people have mentioned about this.

Personally, I'm with Brendon on this ..... I often find myself seeing, hearing about, thinking I'll have a look at etc etc, then going over to Google News, inputting the term or topic I'm after, and seeing what the mix of news stories there are available for it.

If he does defect over to Microsoft / Bing, I wonder whether he'll quit his PPC ads for "wall street journal" and "WSJ" (check them out in Google ! )

[thebusiness]

If he does defect over to Microsoft / Bing, I wonder whether he'll quit his PPC ads for "wall street journal" and "WSJ" (check them out in Google ! )

Yeah, and also remove adsense from all his pages too?

[Brendon]

The one point I'm amazed that no-one has mentioned anywhere is this : News is *not* a creative industry. They make nothing. Murdoch (nor any other news outlet) does not make news, just report it, and if one service becomes unavailable, I'll just switch to another, kthnxbai. So, yeah feel free to withdraw from your biggest online distribution partner. I'm sure that's going to work out great...