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  Unhappy Vernons are using Adware!!!

And they are targeting Jackpotjoy

Warning to any affiliates promoting Vernons that they are targeting competitor brands with Adware.

Feel free to put as much pressure on them as you need to in order to make them stop.

Will get back to you with the company that they are using.

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  Which network are they on?

Does anyone know which affiliate network vernons are on?
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Ive heard that a lot of the gambling sites are being heavily targeted directly by 180 Solutions at the moment.

Seems that now the pressure on networks is really starting to work (apparently they are no longer working with CJ) they have decided to go for direct relationships with merchants.

Shoeb at Connextra has told me he wont work with any spyware companies (he represents capital, premierbet, betfred) but Ive heard nothing back from other bookies yet.
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thats it, its the direct relationships that these sods have with the merchants that are the ones to worry about!....

cos you have to assume that themerchant is well aware how the technology works and thinks its a great way of making money.
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Yeah, Vernons are on DGM.
As soon as it's confirmed they're working with spyware we'll remove their links from our sites (TBH we've only ever had a handful of leads but it's the principle that matters at this stage I think).
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  I was informed by someone playing on the site

Yesterday a JPJ player on the site wanted to know why Vernons were advertising on Jackpotjoy. (This raised alarm bells).

And today, I received another email from a reliable source warning me that Vernons were targeting us with "Scumware". I've asked if they can identify the company for me - waiting for a reply.

The point is that we don't run any advertising across our network. (Other than our own). So it must be Adware. And now it's been mentioned from 2 different sources it sounds very likely that this is taking place.

Has anyone got any tools that we can use to find out for a fact?

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  Re: I was informed by someone playing on the site

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Has anyone got any tools that we can use to find out for a fact?
Maybe Clarke still has that computer that he infected with all the crap on it still may be able to check? Also think someone else has done the same.

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when you can confirm. Find out the other sites they are working with and collectively issue Vernons with a cease and desist order.

If no luck there collectively issue a press releases to mags like web user and the other pc ones, maybe even the national press.

he he I'm even tempted to do some "google bombing" on some of their brand keywords to a page that highlights what Vernons is up to (if confirmed) - its just as bad as they're "doing".
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Seems that now the pressure on networks is really starting to work (apparently they are no longer working with CJ) they have decided to go for direct relationships with merchants.
With regard to 180, they are signing up to networks under different names like Metrics Direct etc...

180 are planning to come to the UK to meet various networks with their various degrees of spin...


Chris,

with regard to your issue, that is why I feel merchants will only react when they see it happening to their own site. I know you have been against it from the start, but it's then when it hits home in your own backyard. An ideal scenario would be to have video footage of each merchant to capture the points when it happens.

Put it this way, we have done well out of your program, it's a good program, we are concerned about pushing to the same level if our cookies are going to be overwritten. You need to get hold of your network and get the video to see what link is attributed to the pop up.

Its not just merchant sites being afffected, affiliate sites are targeted as well.


999gi,

A leopard doesn't change it's spots and there has been no announcement and nothing written in T&C's which is approved and written by the affiliate community..then there is WhenU and others. This whole thing just isn't about 180
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can I attend - I'll make sure I've got a full bladder!
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  Thanks for the support guys and gals

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with regard to your issue, that is why I feel merchants will only react when they see it happening to their own site. I know you have been against it from the start, but it's then when it hits home in your own backyard. An ideal scenario would be to have video footage of each merchant to capture the points when it happens.
Can you advise me on how to go about doing this?

Our chat moderators are going to be actively promoting ad-aware to players who don't want to receive scumware anymore. They are also going to ask the players to bring it to their attention the minute they see an ad pop up when visiting our site. Hopefully, we will be able to get accurate info on who is targeting us and with what.

As soon as we kno