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  Revolution Magazine

The June issue of Revolution Magazine is apparently going to be about AFFILIATE marketing.

Have any affiliates on the forum been contacted to contibute to the article, as it is about AFFILIATE marketing.

Or do AFFILIATES not fit into the equation?

Has anyone ever seen useful articles in NMA or Revolution Magazine?
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"Has anyone ever seen useful articles in NMA or Revolution Magazine?"

they will probably interview a couple of big brands that do affiliate marketing, a CEO or two from a couple of networks, and maybe one affiliate... if we're lucky.

If it states anything like

"every ecommerce company should have an affiliate programme as it is a superb way to get cheap traffic, affiliates are fairly naive and are happy to accept a much much smaller EPC than another forms of advertising. For instance Big Brand Electrical Store .com pay 30p on PPC yet only on average 3p a click to affiliates"

then I will take my hat off. but i doubt it.
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They certainly had a chat with me and Helen, and I tried to put across the importance of affiliates and how it's not an opportunity for cheap branding, but a way to develop fruitful partnerships. However you never now how much will be printed.

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Hi Graham, I am glad you told them it's not an opportunity for cheap branding however that's not the view of many folk that work in agency's. Problem is (and your not included in this) when these magazines write articles about affiliate marketing they often forget to ask a) the people that know what they are talking about b) the people it's not just another job to and c) always focus on the merchants and networks when this is called "affiliate" marketing. At the end of the day merchants and networks wouldn't be selling a thing via affiliate marketing without affiliates however some networks seem to think it's cool to act like the magazines and ignore the affiliates partners (they are the networks on the way out).

Rules have changed, affiliates are the ones that make the big money, I know more profitable affiliates than I do merchants or networks so we must be doing something right, but it’s sad no one takes the time to ask what we think when these one side and full of bull articles get printed.

By the way Spyware is great, spyware is wonderful... it's the best targeted branding a merchant can pay for.. so targeted in fact the adverts right on your own website, magic.... How many times have I read how these magazines talk them up and never once talk about how they are destroying brands reputation online and effectively using underhand tactics to steal from your competitions and your real partners… I can’t wait until all the banks, and big brands start suing each other and the spyware supporting networks over this stuff when that starts we will finally get laws to stop this stuff in this country, and when the laws get passed and TD and CJ finally clean up there act, will we come running back to them, well we heck.. they should do the right thing now and not wait until they are forced to do it by mass merchant migration or laws.
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and relax...

I hear where you're coming from mate.

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  Official Voice

Clarke I am going to nominate you as the Official Voice of Affiliate Mktng

Breath in 2, 3, 4 and out 2, 3, 4

Couldn't agree more with you on every single point you have mentioned in your response. So often is the case when you read any article about affiliate marketing, they actually forget to ask or obtain the Affiliate point of view!
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Is this the politically correct way of phrasing things or the spin....sorry couldn't resist.

"I work with many US partners who have EU traffic and who can geo-target"

Sourced from and pointed out by quiet and gentle behind the scenes publisher.

http://forums.seochat.com/showthread.php?t=9358
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and relax...

I hear where you're coming from mate.

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LOL it just upsets me the total disrespect that affiliates are given by certain networks.. they got to understand we are no longer divided and conquered.. we are a voice via this forum, we do make loads of money for the merchants and networks, we keep thousands of people in jobs, while not everyone of the top affiliates are here on the forum saying something many of them talk to folk who do take part, and the message is the same, we have to make sure our future is secure and if certain people want to destroy that future because they are so greedy then we have to do something about it now.. sitting about doing nothing and saying nothing will never work, as with all great changes for good it's a few voices that start and it grows and grows. Never has so many top affiliates / publishers and merchants gotten together on one subject... we are not looking to change the world, just make people understand, that this is wrong and needs sorted now.. if folk sorted spam out when it first started we all would not be suffering today. Now when we send out legit newsletters they are getting ignored because people paid the spammers to fill our users email boxes with crap.. this is what's going to happen with adverts on sites, they will no longer be effective because of spyware.

It's not surprise to me that the biggest supporters of spyware are the ones that all the anti-spyware programs and Norton / Zone Alarm block out... they are seen as part of the problem because sadly they are, these are the people that fund these things and help them to grow, infesting peoples machines and making the Internet a hellish thing to use.

We are not dictating to networks what they should do, we are saying to them, do the right thing for everyone’s sake before it’s to late.
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  interesting analogy

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It's not surprise to me that the biggest supporters of spyware are the ones that all the anti-spyware programs and Norton / Zone Alarm block out... they are seen as part of the problem
Very interesting analogy that it's only CJ and TD links that are blocked by Nortons out of all the UK networks, hhmmm, is this coincidence...2+2= ?....surely not
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Does anyone know when the June issue of Revolution is on sale?

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June possibly Graham?

sorry mate couldn't resist...see you tonight for a good pummelling
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