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[forceuk]

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Hey all, Im a total newbie and this is my first post to the board. But Im going to add my two pence...

I have taken the spirit of what was first written by Stu, my view is that he was simply demonstrating a simple concept to people just like me.

Which he has done beautifully.

Its actually all of the other testosterone stuff that really has no place here! And for a newbie, is what is most off putting.

we all market for a living or for extra bucks - it can be hard to turn it off sometimes and so we shouldnt shoot so quickly.

Im sure we all have alot to offer so please offer it, I am all ears!!!

[seekituk]

Great thread Stu,

Keep it going, it's already inspired me.

I would imagine quite a few people knocked Mr Gates when he said 'I have an idea for a home computer type thingy'

Cheers

Jason

[stu foster]

Thanks guys.

A lot of people just assume that everybody knows everything which is clearly not the case. I find that out myself after making that post.

The video was never in my plans but i would be foolish not to capitalise on what seems to be a fairly large number of people willing and wanting to learn what i love to do.

i'm going to make some money out of it. So sue me

I love to teach.

Stu

[forceuk]

seeing as you love to teach what are some of the best and easiest ways to choose two-word domain names? Apart from being inspired by everyday things, what are some of the best systematic approaches???

I can easily find combinations but they are either to competitive or so unsearchable their crap. Any suggestions in finding a good medium?

Can anyone else add their experiences with this please?

Sorry, its off thread a little...but still relevant because the domain name plays it part in the success. Thanks!!

[cyberbird1]

By semi-competitive keyword i mean the fact that a simple search for it on google returns 928,000 results, and considering most jo public use this method and don't include any " marks, its quite good.

Cyberbird1, maybe you should buy his video

There are different definitions of "competitive" but it's probably best using a definition which includes some measure of difficulty if we are going to use it to say whether what Stu has done is impressive or not.

The number of listings is probably not a good guide. The number of searches for a term would show whether it's worth optimising for that term. In the case of "contemporary vase" you are unlikely to have much serious competition as the traffic is not worth chasing.

Of course a better measure of how well Stu has done would be to look in detail at the pages/sites he's above and look to see what they have in terms of baclinks, what the anchor text of those backlinks is, what PR the pages/sites have and whether the pages are optimised for the term.

[stu foster]

He's absolutely correct in what he says.

Contemporary Vases are not the most exciting or highly searched keywords in the world but yet some people seem to be missing the whole point.

It was a throwaway test, as i mentioned on my blog.

I'm bored with discussing it to be honest.

those that chose to ignore or dismiss, that's fine.

those that choose to be inspired, that's fine too.

At the end of the day, i make a great living from the internet so i find it hard to get upset by a few people.

The fact that this thread became so popular, coupled with some of the views i am reading about speaks volumes for the complete lack of understanding that *a minority* of the longer standing members have about the needs of newbies.

Instead of taking offence at 'the new boy' becoming popular, have a good look at yourself.

i have over 10 years experience of web design, seo & internet marketing under my belt so i may be a 'newbie' to the forum, but please don't insult my intelligence when it comes to my work.

I don't care what date you joined the board, it doesn't give you the right to pick and choose who people listen to.

If a certain few want me to leave the board and stop upsetting the applecart, just say the word and i'm gone, it's not an issue for me.


Stu

[stu foster]

There are different definitions of "competitive" but it's probably best using a definition which includes some measure of difficulty if we are going to use it to say whether what Stu has done is impressive or not.

The number of listings is probably not a good guide. The number of searches for a term would show whether it's worth optimising for that term. In the case of "contemporary vase" you are unlikely to have much serious competition as the traffic is not worth chasing.

Of course a better measure of how well Stu has done would be to look in detail at the pages/sites he's above and look to see what they have in terms of baclinks, what the anchor text of those backlinks is, what PR the pages/sites have and whether the pages are optimised for the term.

You have a real cheek.

Your niche has no competition.

When you eventually find your way on to Google, let me know and i'll get the flag out.

Stu

[rejoice]

In relation to the Wikipedia comment/question...

Wikipedia is the fastest growing online directory. What makes it unique is that it is open source. Anyone can add, edit, and delete content. It is a wonderful resource and has hundreds of thousands of pages with excellent resources. Every page includes links to "External Resources." Find relevant pages on Wikipedia, create excellent copy on topic resources and then link to them from Wikipedia.

Example: CSS is a very popular web design technique. If that is your field and you offered an excellent resource you could list it under the external resources in the "Cascading Style Steets" page in Wikipedia. This page has a PageRank of 6 so that would be a great link!

[drivetowin]

Except that Wikipedia has 'no follow' on all of its external links so in SEO terms a link from a Wikipedia page is as much use as a chocolate fireguard - but of course if the Wikipedia page gets enough trafffic then in visitor number terms the link may be useful enough in its own right.

Interesting thread Stu and good to see a newbie contributing - if only some of the people who have lurked here longer than Jack the Ripper stood in dark doorways did the same....

[stu foster]

Thank you for your comment, it's really appreciated and means a lot coming from you.

Stu

[smingle]

wow the *****ing is still happening ha ha !

Keep up the good work stu and I am another who has been inspired by you :-)

[Stellar]

Example: CSS is a very popular web design technique. If that is your field and you offered an excellent resource you could list it under the external resources in the "Cascading Style Steets" page in Wikipedia. This page has a PageRank of 6 so that would be a great link!

Rejoice, as Drivetowin mentioned, Wikipdea put a nofollow on the links, so it won't help your ranking. Well, with Google anyway. I believe that Yahoo ignores the nofollow tag.

But I'm sure you can get some good traffic from Wikipedia as people click on the external links. So may be worth a try just for that.

[purple]

I have found this thread useful, and I am sure newbies will too. the thread has veered off topic alot, as the original post was just about time taken to get listed on google.

Comments re wikipedia for sure it has no follow on external links, but I have found if you have a site which can add more information to a topic you can get good amount of referels. I have got some decent traffic from some wikipedia links recently.

[Mogga]

It's actually showing 72 now.

The point is, that it is not a semi-competitive phrase though.

Thats nothing to do with the people on here doing searches to see where his site is?

[stu foster]

They work a month behind mate.

Next month will see a completely disproportionate number of searches.

If anything, i will be punished by Google for all the searches going on, they may well see it as a warning sign and stick me in the 'sandbox'.

To repeat myself, i don't market on Yahoo, overture is Yahoo, i don't market on Yahoo, overture is Yahoo.

Did i mention that i don't market on Yahoo?

Stu