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Old 28-08-08
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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

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Sorry, what does that mean? After doing a trial purchase it was futile?
I realised that a lot of your customers would go looking for voucher codes? Hence, my efforts would be futile in so far as I would never be able to earn enough commission to justify the time spent promoting you in a way you would prefer?
Someone who could send 1000 clicks a day to your site might be able to overlook the handicap, but as I was only sending less than 10-20 it just didn't add up.

If you didn't have the voucher box then how many of your customer would be visiting Marks site ?
I dread to think what they'll be reading tomorrow?
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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

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I realised that a lot of your customers would go looking for voucher codes? Hence, my efforts would be futile in so far as I would never be able to earn enough commission to justify the time spent promoting you in a way you would prefer?
Someone who could send 1000 clicks a day to your site might be able to overlook the handicap, but as I was only sending less than 10-20 it just didn't add up.

If you didn't have the voucher box then how many of your customer would be visiting Marks site ?
I dread to think what they'll be reading tomorrow?
If they read this I hope they read the fact that we don't have public voucher codes, that they are wasting their time looking for them and that Mark operates in a very unprofessional manner.

As I say, we have very rare voucher codes for certain customers in certain situations and we occasionally have voucher codes for existing customers which are sent to our newsletter subscribers so we do need the ability to show a box to some customers. I will have to code it so it only shows the box to customers we wish to see it and removes it for the rest.

Perhaps then you will give our scheme another try. You will see from this small selection of Google Checkout feedback that we operate a very good business - The Alcohol-Free Shop - Google Search

My annoyance with Mark is his point blank refusal to accept when a merchant doesn't want to work with him. And we're clearly not the only company he has done this to.

If a merchant asks me as an affiliate not to promote them I'll agree and promote a merchant who wants to work with me. I wouldn't waste my time trying to damage their business.
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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

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I actually tried promoting your business at one point but after doing a trial purchase I soon realised that it was futile. I appreciate your sentiment, you should be able to offer your customers some promotional incentives but the way you are doing it is detrimental overall.

To the average punter your 'insert voucher code' box might as well be a a hyper-link to your mate above and his colleagues?

I'm betting the Affiliate Future 'Spin-Doctor' steers clear of this debate also
LOL - Am I the Spin-Doctor? I always wanted to be a politician, perhaps it's not too late

In terms of voucher codes, we aim to advice clients on the best way to use these to add incremental sales to their business, such as money off for new customers only, etc.

For clients that don't want to use voucher codes via the affiliate channel we do actually advise them to take the voucher code box off via affiliate traffic (if they have one) and provide some technical documentation on local cookies to show how to do this.

Hope that helps,

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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

What has Mark done that just makes you not wanting to work with him. Mark is a good guy trying to do his own business. I bet this situation could be resolved amicably without you or anyone else spreading their cloths in the sun. Has myvouchercodes done any harm than good by promoting you all ? Forgive the poor boy and let the world rotate please.

To you Markco, there is always an ioto of truth in every dust of rumour. I am sure there are no problems promoting those merchants who chose not to work with you but the fact is you stepped on toes where you should'nt and refused to apologise. If you learn to say sorry to Elaine, jrisby and every other merchant concern they would be glad to give you codes exclusive to your users to work with rather than bogusly listing non existing offers. They are just an email or PM away from you. Let the sleeping dog sleep while the world rotate.
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LOL - Am I the Spin-Doctor? I always wanted to be a politician, perhaps it's not too late

In terms of voucher codes, we aim to advice clients on the best way to use these to add incremental sales to their business, such as money off for new customers only, etc.

For clients that don't want to use voucher codes via the affiliate channel we do actually advise them to take the voucher code box off via affiliate traffic (if they have one) and provide some technical documentation on local cookies to show how to do this.

Hope that helps,

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Hi James - What feedback have your existing merchants who have done this given you?
What about in our case where we sometimes send existing customers newsletters with voucher codes - what if they get a code from us legitimately but happen to have a cookie stored on their machine from a previous (<30 day) affiliate link. Won't we end up with customers complaining the can't use the voucher code?
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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

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If they read this I hope they read the fact that we don't have public voucher codes, that they are wasting their time looking for them and that Mark operates in a very unprofessional manner.
Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen - they'll read what he wants them to read.

If I were you, I'd get in touch with Mark, apologise for the rant and edit out any comments you have made about him. Simply explain you have a different philosophy and agree to disagree. I can't see why he would want to waste his time fighting you if you did this?

You may not like it but he's in a stronger position than you are - accept it and move on?
I'll happily go back and edit anything I've quoted, btw.

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Lose the voucher code box and I will
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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

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What has Mark done that just makes you not want to work with him. Mark is a good guy trying to do his own business. I bet this situation could be resolved amicably without you or anyone else spreading their cloths in the sun. Has myvouchercodes done any harm than good by promoting you all ? Forgive the poor boy and let the world rotate please.
It's simple. He claimed he had voucher codes when he didn't. He also used to have our site in an iframe which set a cookie without a user even clicking on a link. We asked him to take it off and he threw his toys out of the pram and made misleading statements to potential customers about us. We don't have voucher codes so we do not want to be listed on a voucher code site. If you think Mark is a "good guy" after reading the "proposal" he gave us, then I'd hate to think what you call a "bad guy".
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  Re: Latest on Children's Rooms Discount Codes

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Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen - they'll read what he wants them to read.

If I were you, I'd get in touch with Mark, apologise for the rant and edit out any comments you have made about him. Simply explain you have a different philosophy and agree to disagree. I can't see why he would want to waste his time fighting you if you did this?

You may not like it but he's in a stronger position than you are - accept it and move on?
I'll happily go back and edit anything I've quoted, btw.
Sorry but I have no intention of editing my messages and I won't be bullied by an affiliate because they have a popular site.

This is not a rant, it is a statement of events. As for apologising to Mark, the very idea is laughable. Have you actually read what he said to me? He effectively said "Change your mind and let me promote your affiliate scheme [on our voucher code site even though you don't have voucher codes] or I will tell everyone we can't recommend your company and to go elsewhere". That's a disgraceful thing to do when the only reason we didn't want him promoting us is because he was pretending he had voucher codes when they did not exist.

His users would presume he had a genuine reason for not recommending us such as poor service or poor product, neither of which were true. How many of his users would realise the only reason he was saying that was because he wasn't earning money from us?

And seeing as he isn't earning money from us, why doesn't he just remove the link to us? What does he gain from listing us?

If anyone should be apologising it should be Mark for his behaviour but I won't hold me breath for that.

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Ok, I'll get in touch when we do, thanks.
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I would remove any merchant that asks not to be listed on any of our sites but as a code site owner myself I can see why Mark Pearson wants to retain your listing (apart from winding you up now, because this has popped up loads of times already).
Basically we're all looking for traffic and once we have it we can, to some extent, steer it or acquire newsletter signups, irrespective of directly making a commission.
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