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    Yes I'd pay it, like you say, what is there to loose. I would pay that if it made me just a 10th of what you say, it would be a lot more than I will likely be making without it.

    I assume we are in this to make money and you have to speculate to accumulate. The results wouldn't show up in the first 30 days would they, so the money back offer is a bit of a wasted offer but I would like to make money all year round.

    Enjoy your Snakebite Affi.
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    I'll show you exactly how I made £50,000 last Xmas from 2 weeks work
    Does it involve PPC... that may make a difference to an answer.

    I find myself shaking my head in disbelief...
    People are indifferent to you and have their views (as is evident on other threads), as perhaps they should accept your ways - you should accept their choice.

    Look at it this way, If you walked into a pub and told someone "give me £50 and i'll show you how i made £50k" most would tell you to go away, others might be fascinated and someone might say yes.... the difference doing that online is you have reputation and that might make some more comfortable to give you £50 to say what worked for you last year.

    Would I pay £50? Depends if I felt it would answer all the questions - like has it worked as well for anyone else since and how many times has it not worked out.

    You could say for example "hey I made £50k off this campaign" - but then at the same time you may have lost on several others (you may well not have given your driving exploits, but others who followed you might).

    "How I Made £50K" sounds a lot better title than "How I Made £50K but some campaigns didn't work using the same method so it doesn't always work".

    Not saying your methods don't work... just addressing why some may be saying "no" in this case.

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    You've got to be mad not to get in on this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by loquax View Post
    Not saying your methods don't work... just addressing why some may be saying "no" in this case.
    I said no for the same reason reason that I wouldn't buy a book written by Donald Trump or anyone like him. I'd rather do things my own way than follow anyone else.

    That doesn't mean that the advice provided isn't valid or will not work, if you are minded that way then it might well?

    I was in the US when the reality TV thing kicked off and I remember the British creator of the show (Mark somebody?) being interviewed and he said he arrived in the US, virtually broke, and became successful after reading Mr Trump's book and following the advice given.

    I don't doubt that he was telling the truth, but would he have become successful anyway, and how many people have read such books, carried on doing whatever they were doing and not succeeded at anything?

    From what I've read and heard about Affi I'd say for £50 you can't really go wrong? Even if you only make a fraction of the potential suggested, you'll get a lot more than £50 worth of knowledge.

    Alternatively, you can learn stuff off this forum, but you might have to suffer some abuse in the process

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    I know a lot of people stand in your corner, however I would not fork out £50 until I saw some proof that you did make that amount of money last year.

    We can all seasonally adjust our figures!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaclapham View Post
    I know a lot of people stand in your corner, however I would not fork out £50 until I saw some proof that you did make that amount of money last year.

    We can all seasonally adjust our figures!!
    Proof?
    Jeez, some people just can't be pleased

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    Its an absolute yes from me Aff, you know me. I believe in your amazing stuff mainly because I use it already and I know what its capable of!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affi Liate View Post
    Hi All,

    This is hypothetical and posted to open my favourite debate on should you ever pay for AM info?...


    Affi Kinsey.
    I would have to ask the question ‘why is someone selling this info if it is so good?’

    ‘With a 30 day money back guarantee’ A classic selling point, It’s great reassurance, and for most info junkies it will be forgotten within moments, so no worry about a refund!

    Tip, The price point should be $97 dollars plus $800 worth of bonus products, that would be much better.


    However this is all hypothetical as you will no doubt continue in the altruistic behavior that fulfills you, helping other people to suck seed….

    Now lets really get to the heart of the problem, tell me about your sex life.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Affi Liate View Post
    * I'll show you exactly how I made £50,000 last Xmas from 2 weeks work
    (and will be repeating that again 10 fold this year)
    Hmmm "10 fold"

    Let's look at that. Starting with 50k -
    fold (double) it once & you have 100k,
    twice - 200k
    3 times - 400k
    4 times 800k
    5 times - 1.6 million
    6 times - 3.2 million
    7 times - 6.4 million
    8 times - 12.8 million
    9 times - 25.6 million
    10 times - 51.2 million

    Now, call me a sceptic (or Susan if you like), but I don't believe you're going to make £50 Million profit in 2 months.

    I'd go as far as to put money on it..... £50 to be exact - it's a yes from me :tup


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    No for a number of reasons:

    1. The Internet is a fast moving space - a strategy which worked last Christmas probably has a 20% (at best) strategy of working this Christmas - Google algorithms, number of competitors, average price per click, consumer spending, disposable income - are all things that have changed in the last 12 months.

    2. If it really was that good, why give it away or sell it? - yes Affi could be truly that altruistic but as the old sayings go there really is no such thing as a free lunch and if it seems too good to be true it almost certainly is.

    I'm not saying that some of Affi's advice is not good, usually amongst his posts there are some real nuggets of gold (though a bit like gold prospecting you normally have to filter 10 bucket fulls of mud to find the one tiny nugget).

    3. I suspect the strategy is based around PPC in which case a) is £50,000 all profit or is it turnover (turnover is vanity, profit is sanity) and b) you're going to need far more than the £50 for the information to make it work. If it's not PPC but SEO then again the danger is that what works with one or two people doing it stops working as soon as 100 people do it.
    Never argue with idiots. They just drag you down to their level and then beat you with their experience.

    If ignorance is bliss then some of the people I know must be orgasmic.

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    As drivetowin said before, the strategy would not necessarily work if loads of affiliates all did the exact same thing.

    For instance, you sell 1,000 copies at £50 giving you £50,000 - nice

    But with 1,000 affiliates all using the exact same keywords and products etc, the 1,000 affiliates would not see anything like £50k each

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    Quote Originally Posted by t4xi-- View Post
    As drivetowin said before, the strategy would not necessarily work if loads of affiliates all did the exact same thing.

    For instance, you sell 1,000 copies at £50 giving you £50,000 - nice
    This is true to some degree but what if I only sold 37 copies ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by t4xi-- View Post
    But with 1,000 affiliates all using the exact same keywords and products etc, the 1,000 affiliates would not see anything like £50k each
    This is not about using the same keywords and products, it is about flooding your website(s) with thousands and thousands of UK customers with credit cards at the ready to buy almost ANYTHING at Christmas.

    I mentioned before, many people see buying presents at xmas as a chore. They haven't got a clue what they are going to buy. They go online, they just want ideas and they want to get it over with pronto.

    If you can get a click through to Dixons, IWOOT, Woolworths, whoever and drop a cookie you have a great chance of making a commission even if that visitor hasn't got a clue what they are looking for when they start out.

    SPECIFIC Keywords and products are only a small part of this strategy at Christmas. The secret is TRAFFIC VOLUMES. All the merchants gear their sites up to convert at Christmas, THEY HAVE DONE ALL THE HARD WORK.

    Their sites are rife with ideas and suggestions - the focus needs to be on GETTING CHEAP TRAFFIC regardless of specific products and keywords, THROUGH YOUR AFF LINKS AND DROPPING COOKIES.

    A quick calculation which I can't be arsed to do would show you there are probably around a billion keyword possibilities for xmas gifts for 8 year old girls. I'd need to sell a sh*t load of £50-ers to saturate that alone, no?

    I would never recommend specific keywords because of that very reason you have pointed out. 90% of people who bought "my" £50 product would jump on my every word.

    This is about showing you how to identify BIG money spinning AREAS to focus on. This way you still have to dream up your own keywords. But the lists to pick from are VAST once you get your head around the possibilities.

    I should also be clear - the question I asked was would you like to see a £50k strategy from 2007. IE how it was done last year. Any one with half a brain can see that that has got to be worth £50 regardless of if they make £500, £5,000, £15,000, £50,000 or £500,000 from it in 2008.

    Cheese Sauce.

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    Hi Guys,

    I'm still in the pub from last night hic (my mates) but managed to skim through all the replies.

    I'll try and clarify why I asked the question...

    [1] Over the past 18 months either directly or indirectly I have been doing my bit to help others make cash in this game (a lot of people).

    Because of the amount of interaction I have had with many differing personalities (all after the same ultimate goal = cash from AM)
    [let's not debate that] often I have found myself giving more and more, of what I know to work, away for free, to try and share my knowledge and help others.

    There comes a point where some strategies, some methods, some products, some keywords, some whatever, are just either too good to GIVE AWAY (because of the amount of time and effort that was put into refining it) or out of respect for other people who use the techniques but have "paid for it" in some form or another. An example of this would be other affiliates who helped me develop the Outlaw program I recently sold (yes sold).


    Now I'm sat here this week watching the "noob Xmas" posts drip in and in my saintly mind I'm tempted to say - "look at this" this is what "x" did last year with a bit of input from me and he made £50k.

    I KNOW FOR A FACT that if I shared this with anybody on here they would make a dam site more money from it than they would otherwise. £50k is not difficult given the right approach and mindset. Even without that, the contents of my hypothetical £50 product would be worth far more than the price tag to ANYBODY.

    A PPC budget is not required to make money from this (strategy)

    Sure I understand the "show us proof first" (he's obviously not on my mailing list)...

    The point is you have choice (hence the poll).

    The old "why sell it if it's so good" Nancy question irritates me (not much does but that sure does).

    It's called The Distribution of Wealth Model.

    There are say 6 parties DIRECTLY in this equation:

    [1] Me

    [2] The Buyer of the "system" (you - the affiliate)

    [3] The Affiliate Network (let's say AWindow)

    [4] The Merchant (lets say Dixons) who stock a given product x

    [5] The buying customer who wants to buy product x

    [6] All competitors for the given product x


    I [1] can make money from using the system as well as I can by selling it (no brainer). That decision/judgement is made by me and only me.

    I can see from last year that affiliates have not even chipped away half of half a percent of what is possible in the Xmas period. So sharing what I know with others will not affect my profitability what so ever. This way I make even more cash by selling it as well as applying the strategies.

    So I sell it for £50 to YOU [2]

    YOU realize that it's dynamite and make £10k in commissions from Dixons [4] (or whoever).

    Dixons get sales that they otherwise may not have had.

    AWindow [3] make a profit from facilitating the relationship

    The customer gets what they wanted (whatever the product was they bought at Dixons).

    The competitors [6] have lost out on a sale.

    Wealth has been redistributed from the big boys (Dixons and the competitors) to YOU and AWindow (in the form of a commisson).

    I benefit, you benefit, AW benefit, Dixons benefit, the big boy competitors lose out.

    This situation is all about the distribution of wealth and the more info products that are sold to faster educate noobs (assuming they only buy good ones) how to make money in this game quite simply means, that in the bigger picture, Dixons and the big boy competitors LOSE OUT.

    The customer will always require and ultimately purchase product x

    The question is simply where do the profits from that sale ultimately get distributed, and I will tell you categorically; if you paid me £50 quid it would be distributed straight into your bank account with such efficiency it would pail the £50 investment into sub atomic insignificance.

    That £50 you spent gets paid back to you indirectly by Dixons with one hell of a premium.

    Aff.

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    Going on the quality of what I've seen already, absolutely. However, the only problem my end would finding the time to actually do it until Xmas 2009.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DioBach View Post
    Going on the quality of what I've seen already, absolutely. However, the only problem my end would finding the time to actually do it until Xmas 2009.
    Lol, I know the feeling I just had to phone me mum to ask her which direction I should take things this month in order to maximise income streams in the run up to xmas.

    Strange but true.

    Too many opportunities can be confusing.

    Aff.

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