Voucher Codes. Merchants Read This.

[drivetowin]

Originally Posted by Cheapdvds i think there are plenty , but keep out of the discussion due to the fear of others that just rubbish their comments

I would hope that no one is just rubbishing others comments - but equally people can't post an unfounded diatribe and not expect a reaction.

There is a valid argument to be had, but it needs to be based on fact and not conjecture.

Noticeable as well that in all these threads, networks (and most agencies and merchants) are distinctly absent from the conversation - come on guys (and gals) let's hear your views on this too.

[loquax]

Just seen this from Dotty P

Dorothy Perkins have taken the decision to reduce commissions for voucher and discount code affiliates to 2.5% from the 1st July 2008. Dorothy Perkins do want to work with voucher and discount code affiliates, however it is no longer viable to pay full commission for a high volume of sales where a discount code is used.

Anyway we can argue who's ethical, honest, unrevealing and revealing until we're as blue as a Smurf version of Roy Chubby Brown, but unless a network(s) decide to comment and clarify what's good/not good then the issues will not be resolved.

Jason

[Cheapdvds]

Originally Posted by drivetowin Noticeable as well that in all these threads, networks (and most agencies and merchants) are distinctly absent from the conversation - come on guys (and gals) let's hear your views on this too.

thats easy , voucher sites make networks too much money for them to rock the boat

[hpops]

Originally Posted by loquax Anyway we can argue who's ethical, honest, unrevealing and revealing until we're as blue as a Smurf version of Roy Chubby Brown, but unless a network(s) decide to comment and clarify what's good/not good then the issues will not be resolved. Jason

And thats the reason why I'm not commenting on these threads - I can't understand why no network has really weighed in here, it is a big big issue.

[Barry]

I must admit, I do earn a fortune in comparison to what salaries are available in my area, I can afford employ my mum and my girlfriend (I will not underpay anyone who works for me!!!) on the money I make from my voucher code site. And I can also afford to improve the quality of life for many more members of my family and close friends.

Its obviously not good for me as a voucher code site to hear that Dorothy Perkins (especially as they never have allowed codes outside the affiliate channel,) like many other sites are reducing or eliminating the commission available for voucher affiliates, but it also doesn't address the leakage that many content affiliates feel they are suffering.


Like I said in another thread maybe to stop this 'leakage' merchants could set the last referrer before customers enter the checkout stage? I am sure this would be a happy medium would it not? There for if a content affiliate initiated the sale and the user tries to look for a voucher (when prompted at the checkout stage) then the original affiliate still gets the sale. But if a voucher site sends a user over armed with a voucher initially then they are rewarded the bounty as normal.

Ta

Baz

[befuddle]

Hi Jason, several merchants offer a reduced commission for discount code sites. What I will be keeping my eye on here with Dorothy Perkins, is what happens after July when the discount code has expired.

If a discount code is not being used to send traffic to a merchant then they should receive the same commission as someone who sends traffic via a Wordpress blog.

I'm currently successfully promoting the Dorothy Perkins Sale and just because I've got the word 'code' in my 'shopcodes' domain, shouldn't be punished for that.

Here's where some of the traffic arrives

1. free delivery dorothy perkins
2. dorothy perkins sale
3. 50% sale
4. dorothy perkins
5. dorothy perkins shop sale
6. money off dorothy perkins
7. discount dorothy perkins june
8. dorothy perkins free delivery
9. dorothy perkins money off
10. free delivery for dorothy perkins
11. free delivery from dorothy perkins
12. £5 discount at dorothy perkins
13. 10 % off dorothy perkins
14. 20% discount at dorothy perkins in june
15. dorothy perkins .co.uk
16. dorothy perkins offers
17. dorothy perkins online uk
18. dorothy perkins recent discounts
19. dorothy perkins sales
20. dorothy perkins summer sale in store

I could easily not promote their sale and just ignore all their end user offers.

Thomson Holidays reduced their commissions from 5% to £5 for code sites, which was a 90% decrease in commission, far worse than anything other merchants did. They also didn't provide any codes, it was just a blanket reduction in commission.

Webgains and their voucher manager tool can manage invalid code use. They specify say that if particular codes are used that weren't intended for the affiliate channel, then the sale will receive 0% commission.

[stu-art]

Originally Posted by Barry Like I said in another thread maybe to stop this 'leakage' merchants could set the last referrer before customers enter the checkout stage? I am sure this would be a happy medium would it not? There for if a content affiliate initiated the sale and the user tries to look for a voucher (when prompted at the checkout stage) then the original affiliate still gets the sale. But if a voucher site sends a user over armed with a voucher initially then they are rewarded the bounty as normal. Baz

Very good point. Would also encourage code sites to target visitors earlier in the buying process.

[Barry]

Yeah was well gutted about Thomson here, I sell about 3 million of holidays for them a year - and not all through my voucher site, however because I have a voucher site in my profile it was 30,000 grand down the drain.

Still the nice big expedia advert on their page seems to do quite well in pushing traffic to a more profitable destination.

Must add though, I did get a couple of hundred bonus off them this month though its still locked at the moment.

Ta

Baz

[befuddle]

Originally Posted by stu-art Very good point. Would also encourage code sites to target visitors earlier in the buying process.

See my above point about Dorothy Perkins. I promote their sale, as do the larger code sites. Code sites ARE adding more content.

So code sites are receiving healthy converting traffic for code AND non-code content.

That's why I encourage content site owners to do the reverse.

[loquax]

I'm currently successfully promoting the Dorothy Perkins Sale and just because I've got the word 'code' in my 'shopcodes' domain, shouldn't be punished for that.

I fully agree with this - and I've emailed Awin for an answer as I have a discounts section - but also other sites that may promote a sale or lingerie or whatever.

If my user is using a discount then ok sort out commission accordingly, if they're not then pay the full amount - that should be feasible I'd have thought?