T-Mobile launching free pay as you go SIM campaign on Buy.At

[Sarah Flannery]

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Hi All

I am delighted to announce T-Mobile is launching a free Pay as you go SIM card programme on Buy.At.

The T-Mobile free SIM program is giving you the opportunity to earn 50p for every unique free SIM order we dispatch!

The campaign is a quick, easy and free way for consumers to join T-Mobile as a Pay & Go customer. No contracts, no tie-ins and there’s a choice of 3 great pay as you go plans: Everyone, Mates Rates or Text Appeal. Plus, for a limited time customers can enjoy unlimited FREE evening and weekend texts and 20% EXTRA credit when they top up.

The program will be run on a permission basis so if you would like to promote the T-Mobile SIM please apply now.

Creative is now available on the management area accessible as soon as you are signed up!

Any questions don’t hesitate to ask,

Kind Regards
Sarah

Please note: Only one SIM per customer will be dispatched and affiliates will only be paid for each unique dispatched order. Orders will be de duplicated by using applicants IP address.

[drivetowin]

Orders will be de duplicated by using applicants IP address.

Please tell me you are not serious!

We had all better hope we get the first person through each AOL IP address then - and what about big companies who share one IP address for their proxy server ?

IP addresses are not a good way of spotting duplicates.

[THiNK]

Virgin (NTL) also use one IP address per town/area.

Please confirm its per postal address and not IP.

Danny

[Richard Forster]

Hi, due to the setup of the confirmation page that is currently in place the use of IP address was the best and most effective solution available. T-mobile has factored this into the commission rate they are offering, which is higher than most competitors.

If you need anything or have any feedback please email me via the below details i will be more than happy to help.

Many thanks,

[leec]

Ive also posted this on the other Thread.

Ive noticed with another Sim card programme im running that school ip addresses keep showing up the same. Im guessing someone finds the site then calls out to a friend / emails link etc etc and they log on and also get a free sim.


Fingers crossed the signups ive got pending already will be ok?

[THiNK]

So based on the fact AOL use 1 IP in the whole of the UK, we send 500 users to get a SIM card and we get 50p!?

We then send 500 people from Birmingham on NTL and again we get 50p - We'd get £1 for 1,000 leads .....

I think i'll pass on this one then as will 99% of people due to this idiotic clause.

Danny

[axod]

Blimey... didn't expect such a backlash against uniquing by IP.
AOL/NTL don't have 1 IP for the whole of the UK.
NTL have a bank of http caching servers for each town - eg.

leed-cache-6.server.ntli.net

As far as I know it'll be similar for other ISPs that do HTTP caching.
IMHO it's hardly a big deal if 2 people from leeds happen to be using the same of say at least 20 caching servers, and 1 lead gets ignored.

Sure, it'd probably be safer to unique on postcode, but doesn't sound like it's easy to do. I'm sure IP will work fine.

Just my 2c.

[drivetowin]

Yeah but say you get one person at one company, school or university who tells all their mates - all of a sudden T-Mobile get say 100 free sims sent out and the affiliate who refers them gets 50p - hardly fair is it.

Other merchants de-dupe based on address no problem at all, T-Mobile must be collecting the address otherwise how do they deliver the sim cards so where is the problem?

Sorry but to me this one smells of a merchant who can't be bothered to put in a bit of effort and maybe sees affiliates as a bit of a soft touch - it's surely no more difficult to dedupe on 1st line of address and postcode than it is on IP address - at the end of the day it's just a question of comparing new data with existing database records - hardly rocket science.

[Barry]

Yeah mentioned it on the CJ forum earlier Lee....

I always thought that you could not get a conclusive I/P address for a remote browser/computer from your server. Maybe they have developed some technique??

In the past I have experienced problems with such fraud detection in membership sites I used to make and have never used it again. Or at least not as a total and automatic method of sreening 'valid' members or submissions from fraudulent ones.

I can imagine that fraud protection is probably one of their main concerns with a program of this nature because there is no real or easy way to quantify how many of any said affiliates leads actually turn into customers - ie they register their sim and use it or at least not in the time they are required to validate leads on the network.

That said there will still be plenty of cash to be made on this program I am sure, but it sounds like many others and myself infact, need a bit of verification on how you will be validating leads before we risk sending it out to our mailing lists (not that I can ever mangage to reach an aol email from my mailing list software anyway!).

[axod]

I'm not a fan of wild speculation, so I thought I'd find out the real answer:
Each time someone logs in/comes back to one of my sites I record their memberID along with their IP address.

No duplicates yet (Only started a few minutes ago so it's not particularly statistically valid - only 42 entries). I'll post an update at the end of the day though. Should have a few hundred/thousand by then.

I really don't think it's going to be an issue personally. As they said, reflected in the payout which is higher than some comparable programs.

So quit moaning

[leec]

So quit moaning

Never meant it as a moan just a concern!

Ive been sending leads to T-Mobile sim for the last few weeks & all i was saying is ive noticed more then 1 user per IP & when i traced this it was to a School.

I think it's a case of wait and see what happens when they approve the pending leads.

[Mogga]

So are they only sending out one sim card per IP address?

[axod]

As far as I understand it, they'll send one sim pack out per household (unique postal address).
However, they'll only payout a lead once per IP address.

[axod]

Well, if anyone's interested, my test results:

Sampled 523 users
501 unique IPs
95.79% of users had a non-duplicate IP
4.21% shared an IP with someone else

So for example if every one of those signed up to a free SIM @50p:

Should get: £261.50
Would get after de-duping IP: £250.50

Compare that to another program say that doesn't de-dupe by IP but only pays 30p:

Would get @30p: £156.90

Based on that, seems like a good deal to me, oh well.... anyway, don't write something off as terrible before getting the facts yourself I say

[axod]

So.... erm how much longer does it take to get approved for this?
I applied on 26th April, and still waiting.
Either you want leads, or you don't