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  1. #1
    TobyT
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    I recently went onto the Scumware site and found this:

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    "Commission Junction, a company established to serve the needs of affiliate program operators in order to recruit new affiliate sign-ups was based on CJ's reputation that would insure that everyone involved would get paid and receive value. Truly lofty ideals indeed.

    That was before the DotCom crash and the diminishing stream of advertising money to support web publishers.

    Apparently the slump hit CJ harder than most because now they are selling traffic generated by ScumWare hijackers to their affiliate customers.

    When they sell these potential customers to their advertisers it robs everyone of legitimate income, not that they seem to care........."
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    To see the whole article go to the Hall of Shame at:

    <a href="http://www.scumware.com/hall2.html" target="top">

    I have only recently discovered the www.scumware site and was blown out by the names that have been, or are getting into bed with these scumbags. I was real disappointed to see the CJ name there and can't help but wonder what the impact could be for affiliate traffic being driven there.

    Same applies with Overture selling out to these traffic hijacking buckets of s____.

    Personally I will not be putting another another £ into Overture or anybody else that stoops to these levels.

    Looksmart are the same and the hijacking of traffic from Looksmart is going on. (Why would anyone pay to get listed in Looksmart only to have their traffic stolen?)

    Some very interesting information on the scumware site also seems to indicate that if you are paying for PPC traffic and your customers get hijacked, you are paying cold hard cash for each stolen click.

    I for one have already taken some of the protest banners from the scumware site and will be displaying from now on upon all our sites.

    I'd appreciate some feedback from CJ about their current involvement with the producers of scumware...


    >:>:></a>

  2. #2
    TobyT
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    Sorry about that - made a bit of a mess of that:

    To see the article on CJ go to:

    www.scumware.com/hall2.html

    and to get the protest banners:

    www.scumware.com/wm6.html

  3. #3
    Qui Gon Jinn
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    To hit the likes of overture where it hurts, would to to create awareness and educate the agents who spend serious bucks with them, so they can make their own informed decision. If a small proportion move their budget elsewhere, then this may have a better effect than a few smaller advertisers.

    I would like to know from those more knowledgable, how rife it is?
    Is there a guestimate of the % of servers nationwide tthis may be affecting.

  4. #4
    NeilDurrant
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    Toby,

    To be fair on CJ, the article you refer to there is very old and although *all* the networks and the entire online advertising industry where a little slow in recognising the difference and addressing issues between spyware and adware applications, CJ where one of the few that took an inititiave to meet and create a code of conduct for these companies to comply to.

    The following articles provide a more up to date and balanced view:

    Part 1 - www.clickz.com/aff_mkt/af...hp/1566491

    Part 2 -
    www.clickz.com/aff_mkt/af...hp/1573771

    Part 3 -
    www.clickz.com/aff_mkt/af...hp/1580691

    Part 4 -

    www.clickz.com/aff_mkt/af...hp/1588581

    Still a contorversial subject in some circles but I don't think the scumware page is fair or representative of CJ at this time.



  5. #5
    Ricki Jones
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    Hi,

    Please click on the link below for details of Commission Junctions Publisher Code Of Conduct concerning scumware.

    www.cj.com/corporate/press_7187.jsp

    Regards

    Ricki

  6. #6
    supercod
    Guest

    I would also add that there is a fine line from scumware and adware.. In my book it's totally fine for a software owner to support his work by showing banners as people use his program and if he wants to have pop-ups then far enough, it's his business.

    It's hyperlink hijacking that I am against, changing people’s links or putting your own ones on other peoples sites are not on. The problem I see is that MP3 file sharing programs come with all the different types so it then makes it very hard for people to stand back and see what ones are legit and what ones are in effect stealing.

  7. #7
    Net Free Stuff
    Guest

    You can tell it's an old article, as GoTo (Now Overture) are hailed as "heroes" for being the only PPCSE at the time never to touch scumware...

  8. #8
    Qui Gon Jinn
    Guest

    Is there code that can be incorporated into the body of a page to prevent "hyperlink hijacking" or identify if the user is infected.

    What % of users are we talking about?

  9. #9
    TobyT
    Guest


    Neil, QGJ and all

    Thank you all for the feedback and clarifications.

    Much Appreciated....<img src=http://www.gamers-forums.com/smilies/contrib/ruinkai/biggthumpup.gif ALT=":thumb">



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