Lee Orrell - Refund?

[tom991]

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If you know his address, have you considered taking him to the small claims court or getting the debt collectors to chase him?
And he can pay the costs.

If not, you may be able to trace him.

[gramtrad]

Hi to all, I am new to this forum and happy to be a part of this forum.

Ok welcome. But best to start a new thread unless you have something to contribute to this one.

Unless you are Lee Orrell !

[gerard]

Hi to all, I am new to this forum and happy to be a part of this forum.

you wont be for long (happy that is)

[gramtrad]

you wont be for long (happy that is)

Hey dont put him off. Bad enough me chastising him in a subtle way for hijacking the thread!

[gramtrad]

If you know his address, have you considered taking him to the small claims court or getting the debt collectors to chase him?
And he can pay the costs.

If not, you may be able to trace him.

Thanks, again for the address information.

I always thought Knotty Ash was a ficticious place where Ken Dodd's Diddy Men came from! But, no - it is real enough and there are clearly some much odder people there!

I have a couple of mates in Liverpool who are going to check out the address for me.

I may have a better alternative than the Small Claims Court.

[tom991]

Knotty Ash really does exist!

it's not just the land of the Ken Dodd and the Diddy Men.

If incorrect info., e.g. wrong address, has been given to companies house, then I believe that the director can be prosecuted. If this is the case, then HMRC & companies house should be informed.

Wish you the best of luck with this.

Keep us posted on how you get on, as I'm sure there are others who would be interested as well.

[madladkent]

Just goes to show how even more cautious we need to be. I've found that if the person is a ltd company its always worth doing a company credit check. They may cost a couple of quid but they could save you £100's, maybe even £1000's on the long run.

Hope u get somewhere Gram.

[gramtrad]

Just goes to show how even more cautious we need to be. I've found that if the person is a ltd company its always worth doing a company credit check. They may cost a couple of quid but they could save you £100's, maybe even £1000's on the long run.

Hope u get somewhere Gram.

Yes, agreed. And thanks for your support.

At the weekend, I had someone call to check the address that I was given (the one that is shown at companies house) - it is incorrect, in that the house number listed does not exist! Companies House are investigating.

[gramtrad]

Please see email and pm sent to you and yawun ..... On friday

Lee,

I have given you a bit of space to sort this matter out, but have lost count of the number of times that you have promised to return my money!

Just yesterday your e-mail said.... "I am actually sorting this out today !
I know your not really intrested like but i have alot of personal issues that i have had to sort out and not been working as much as i should have, i took my eye completley off the ball, and i apologise for that......."

Now a quote from the 3rd July ...."To be honest with you £90 is nothing and i can easily refund it i am trying my best to sort it out...."

So , what is the problem, Lee?

I have tried to be reasonable about this and not give you too much grief on this forum, because you have constantly said that the refund is due and that you are sorting this out.

Guess what? I don't believe you any more!

The number of phone calls and PMs that I have received from various colleagues and friends on the forum, as well as all the posts, suggest to me that this has damaged your chances of further business. You are a fool to yourself.

[jrukcc]

Open letter to Lee,

I have been trying to contact you for days.

I paid you money for leads - in cash to the Nationwide Building society B Orrell.

You sent me totally the wrong leads and then promised to "sort it out". That was a week ago. You promised a refund and now you do not return my calls, pms, texts or emails.

I have since done what I should have done before I ordered - checked this forum! Now I see that you have popped up under the LC group, one-stop-money-shop and more recently Alfred Charles! I can see that others had similar problems back in April of this year. I can bump the posts if you like - much the same story as mine!

Now come on - Lee. You promised to sort it out - please do so. It's £90 by the way if that rings a bell!

Got stung for cash from this joker only 30 quid he must be desparate LOL

[gramtrad]

Got stung for cash from this joker only 30 quid he must be desparate LOL

Yes, I have had lots of calls and emails about him - same story.

I thought for a second that he was going to pay me! This is what he wrote to me by email last week :

"I was not in the office yesterday sorry, so I have only just read your email.
The refund HAS been sent by BACS transfer to the following banking details......."

And then he said :....."I hope that issue can now have a line drew under it, please accept my sincere apologies for the inconviance i have caused you and your business. I also hope that Companies House have been back intouch with you to explain that 243 does actually exsist."

What I cannot understand is that he keeps saying he is paying/ has paid. And then he does not pay!!!

Time to drop in.

[my_name]

You should all use your heads a little bit!!

He's not had me off but

I see on many posts that money is paid into an account for B Orrell i guess his wife.

Then i would bet this money is not going through his accounts as it would then be a business account in the name of the company he has registered with companys house.

Several things could happen if the relevent companys were informed.

Tax evasion (inland revenue) i bet all or most the money going through his wifes account isn't on his book's
Maybe claiming working tax credits and not declaring the money going into his wifes account
Invoicing in company name and paying into personal account companies may not be happy about that? not running company as he should do. Nor would her bank!
Several other companys could be informed just have a little think.

You may not get your money back but the companys above would proberly close him down!!!

[gramtrad]

You should all use your heads a little bit!!

He's not had me off but

I see on many posts that money is paid into an account for B Orrell i guess his wife.

Then i would bet this money is not going through his accounts as it would then be a business account in the name of the company he has registered with companys house.

Several things could happen if the relevent companys were informed.

Tax evasion (inland revenue) i bet all or most the money going through his wifes account isn't on his book's
Maybe claiming working tax credits and not declaring the money going into his wifes account
Invoicing in company name and paying into personal account companies may not be happy about that? not running company as he should do. Nor would her bank!
Several other companys could be informed just have a little think.

You may not get your money back but the companys above would proberly close him down!!!

Thanks, I am looking into some of this already.

The guy is still playing games - this is the latest from 13/7 :

"......The payment was sent by BACS transfer to the details you provided me via email.
I have just noticed your post on A4U. The payment was sent 8th July 2009, please could you double check as the payment has left my account...."

I did check, of course and still no sign. Bacs takes 2 days and the account details were correct.

Lee - if you are out there - get it sorted; it wont go away. And stop fobbing me off.

[madladkent]

Dear Dear Dear, yet again the infamous Lee Orrell has struck, and run off with your money!!
You guys would be wise to view the post above, and you would be best to steer clear of the following:

-Leads Supermarket
-Alfredcharles
-One__Stop_Money_Shop
-AAC_Solutions

They all seem to come under the portfolio of Mr Orrell, (although AAC_Solutions is under Lee Shaw but the characteristics are far too similar!)

Quite a few decent people I have the pleasure of working with have had their money taken, delivered "pile of Rubbish", sometimes nothing at all, and even been promised a refund....sadly those promises have so far not been adhered to.

My colleagues have informed me that action is being taken, PM me if u want further info.

[gramtrad]

Dear Dear Dear, yet again the infamous Lee Orrell has struck, and run off with your money!!
You guys would be wise to view the post above, and you would be best to steer clear of the following:

-Leads Supermarket
-Alfredcharles
-One__Stop_Money_Shop
-AAC_Solutions

They all seem to come under the portfolio of Mr Orrell, (although AAC_Solutions is under Lee Shaw but the characteristics are far too similar!)

Quite a few decent people I have the pleasure of working with have had their money taken, delivered "pile of Rubbish", sometimes nothing at all, and even been promised a refund....sadly those promises have so far not been adhered to.

My colleagues have informed me that action is being taken, PM me if u ise
want further info.

Lee is a fool to himself for handling his business affairs like this. And there is a growing group of people who are after him! He will learn the hard way.

He has made many promises to pay me (only £90) and said to others that "it is not a problem to pay"

Naively, on two occassions he promised ro refund my money and asked me to remove this thread on the basis that the matter was "now sorted".

Many of his vitims will be scouring this forum for Lee to pop up in a new form and as soon as he does, like you did, they will post. The boys a fool.

I am getting someone to drop in this weekend; so will report back on this.

In the meantime I will PM you.