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[madladkent]

Speaking of Cartel, thought this may interest some of you...

Cartel Client Review Consumer Credit Litigation SOlicitors

[MonsterAudit]

shocking what has been uncovered if of course any of his findings are true. Made for a good explosive fuelled read full of big figures with no conclusive proof of where the figures came from. Its open to much discussion so I'll point a few bits out. and also if anyone reading this does work for cartel then why not throw your twopence in also.

He should detail how he has concluded or calculated his findings with regards to the amount of cases they have.
'My investigations have found that Cartel may have some 266,000 or so active claims', however there is no detail of his investigation and how he has calculated (i.e mode median or mean ) and settled on this figure. Its a rounded off figure so is it an average and if so what data set was used?

Secondly he also doesn't state what stage of the process of claim the 266,000, for example a 1/3 of the claims may have had an L.O.C sent out in which case the lender has 3 months to respond etc. A process of claim takes 11 months on average so these figures mentioned could be at any stage of the cycle . i.e dsar request sent to lender (40 days under section 7 for the lender to respond)

i quote "It was reported by insiders"..where is the report of this then? or is there a twist on words here? Fails to reference who his informatives are. If he has 'inside information' then he should be listing his sources. Especially if he wants to add weight to his argument.

quote 'Carl Wright claims at his latest sales seminar that he has over 4,000 successful claims paid out. Impressive you might think? Not when you consider he has amassed some 266,000 claims that haven't been paid out.' now please bear in mind this 266,000 refers to his investigation that fails to show any calculations.

Anyways it was a good read but lacked any real meat and potato or solid substance. I do believe Cartel have come under the cosh off some aggrieved customers but in all honesty the OFT and MOJ are positioned to be able to action on companies that don't adhere to their rules and regulations. Mind you the definition of a 'cartel' is alarming enough for anyone not to use it in a business name.

I believe 'madladkent' that you also deal in this market and have solicitors at hand therefore you will be aware that yes...debts can be deemed as irreversibly unenforceable and not have to be paid back upon receipt of a court declaration and that it can take longer than 11 months.

I do feel sorry to any person that has a debt that falls into this category but ends up having to pay a claims company a percentage of the debt that is cleared upon completetion. We had a 21k natwest loan deemed irreversibly unenforceable by the courts and the clients only cost was 145 pound for the initial audit. I guess if he had gone through cartel it would have cost him 3500 pounds roughly.

anyways it would be good to hear from anyone who works for cartel to see what type of feedback they have on the subject.

[davidjackppc]

The information i have has all come from Master Agents both past and present, many are still working inside Cartel as well as Legal Executives in CCLS and admin staff at CCR. With the investigation now at a crucial stage involving the police and the MoJ as well as the potential for the Inland Revenue i cannot reveal my sources publicly but have them with the MoJ and Police. Once they have reported their findings i can publish more of my sources and investigations.

The figures come from Cartels own databases and Carl Wrights own mouth at sales meetings and seminars.

He sits his five most senior members at the back of the room to make sure no one films or records him, however this has not stopped secret filiming of his claims.

[MonsterAudit]

it all seems a little wishy washy. Please dont be offended in any way shape or form but if you allow me to proceed.

''He sits his five most senior members at the back of the room to make sure no one films or records him, however this has not stopped secret filiming of his claims''

So who has these 'secret' filmings and why can they not be made public? If they can be made public then please upload them and share them thus allowing people to substantiate your own claim. If they cant be made public then i assume they are part of the 'investigation' you claim is being carried out.


If carl wright has managed to process 288,000 and we were to use the lower end of his pricing model for each claim then Cartel over two years of trading would have a sales turnover of 49,210,000 pounds. Now lets look at this using a figure of 250 pounds for each claim as at the top end of the pricing structure we can find a figure of 495 pounds charged for each claim. if we were to give an average charge of 250 pound for each claim then cartel would have a sales turnover of 72,000,000. Okay thats 72,000,000 pound!! I assume with a turnover of such an amount he still feels it necessary to put himself in the firing line by attending these presentations and being the point of abuse if any was to arise.

I think you will find Cartel Client review stating in public they have possibly 20,000 cases in total as in july of last year they had 10,000. There is no way they have increased their sales by 280% in over a year.

Cartel Client Review - History

Thats like stating the owner, yes the owner of British Gas travels the length and breadth of the country to tell potential sales staff about the benfits of customers using british gas and how all the piping works etc . Now i believe that Carl Wright does attend these meetings, but thats because he doesnt own a company that has recorded 288,000 claims. No where near the amount.

For me im afraid it just doesnt stack up but then again thats my opinion. These arent AGMs we are talking about but little conventions held at travel lodges and places of the like up and down the country.

So as it stands there is an ON-GOING investigation being carried out by the Police, the MOJ and as you may believe the Inland Revenue.

You state your sources as follows:
Ministry Of Justice
Police
Active Master Agents (still active and still willing to deal with new customers i take it?)
Inactive Master Agents
Legal Execs in CCLS (for those who arent aware this is the solicitor firm that Cartel pass business through)
Admin Staff at CCR.

So barring the POlice and the Moj the majority of the sources are willing to pass you information yet are still happy to be on the pay-role of Cartel Client Review?! Some people nowadays have a nerve!

Until the investigation has been concluded if any such investigation is taking place of course I think we should all realise that no-conclusive proof of anything that was mentioned on the external link can be quantified by the sources involved with the link.

please dont see this as an attack on yourself. its just that this thread started off as a Monster Claims thread and someone put an article up about Cartel that has no conclusive findings whatsoever in its writing.