Tenant loan declines

[neildubber]

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We Currently have tenant loan declines.

Minimum loan amount 5k £6.50
Minimum loan amount 15k £7.50

These applications are up to two week old declines with the option of loan reason, we have consolidation, car finance etc,,

Proving very popular for the generation of IVA and debt management leads.

IVA/DMP is massive and is surely the fastest growing sector in the finance market, which is obviously in the middle of the credit crunch.

We aslo provide 1 month exclusivity.

You can either pm me or contact me on 08704 877500 to discuss further.

Kind regards,

Neil

neil.dubber@consumer-contacts.co.uk

[helpinhand]

just a thought mate, why would you ring someone who has been declined a car loan 2 weeks ago, to propose a DM plan? and help them with there financial struggles?

debt consolidation leads yeah but not car leads, and i could sell you tenant declines 24 hrs old for £2ea and make money.

not a DM company in the uk would touch these at this price

[neildubber]

Dear Help In Hand

Noone said DM conpanies would wish to car loan declines for a DM plan people in this field would be much better suited to DEBT CONSOLODATION loan reason.

Your comments only seem to compound my theroy that you really have no idea what you are talking about. I find the annyumnity of your posting also very alarming surely if you had some thing informative and constructive to say you would allow people to see where you are calling from?? this could be due to the fact that you dont have a substantial business to talk about??

Here at Consumer Contacts we are one of the largest Direct Marketing Agencies in the UK with a vast plethra of clients including the DM industry who are very happy with the products and advice we offer, so i can assure you we do know what we are talking about!

Can you do the same?

Thought Not,

I must say in the world of business i am a little taken a back by how unproffesional people in your position seem to be about something you clearly dont understand.

Like your mother should of taught you when you where a young boy if you have nothing nice to say dont say it at all, For example if you are not interested in the product we are offering please move on and leave somethings to the real proffesionals.

We are not offering car loan declines to the DM industry simply making people slightly more intelligent than you that this type of list can be used in the DM industry selected correctly i.e. debt consolodation.

Should you wish for any advice in your travels i would be happy to help, please contact me on the below details and try not to be such a shy little man,

Warm Regards,

Neil Dubber

[helpinhand]

well i look at it like this neil, and take your comments on board

if these were any good

they would already be placed ?

[neildubber]

"already be placed"

its all about supply and demand!

Some LARGER companies generate more than companies who dont have trouble placing the small amount of leads they generate.

You cannot predict the amount of leads generated by a live feed and as i understand it is normal practice for a business with a product to find out how in demand that product is.

I would take a look at your posts to comment on diffeciencies but to be honest i am far more concerned about my own business than that of others!

[helpinhand]

again even i am starting to get in to a argument with some newbie, from someone supposedly in the business for years!!! 8 posts

this forum is for all and you are welcome to offer to anyone, the fact is mr dubber you said in the post at the top we have basically mixed bag tenant loan declines car etc and debt con leads 14 days old, at £6.50 a lead

and i am replying saying that these leads are to expensive at £6.50 and its obvious they are not placed now other wise you would not be trying to shift them.

and as for the supply and demand and live feed thing there not live, they are declines that you are trying to sell and basically it is against the DPA to contact the applicants with an approach of debt management, if the broker they contacted in the first place have not recommended your debt management company!!!!!, who obviously had not.

consumer contacts says exactly that!

[neildubber]

Dear HELP IN HAND!

AGAIN you insist on posting anonymous comments please please grow up and be brave enough to at least have some sort of contact details so we could talk your diflamitry comments through or you could even try and call me!? scary thought i know but one day im sure you'll get there.

You refer to me as a newbie!? ha ha ha you are joking right!? there is a big wide world out there so judging me on how many posts I have placed on this site?? surelly not?!

As i the leads are from OUR own UK AMCAT dialler call center (do you know what AMCAT is?) we do introduce everyone of our clients to the consumer prior to dispatch.

Now i am going to keep this sweet as im not sure a man of your intelligence understands proffesionalism....... GO AWAY, we are a real company offering a real product, you dont even have a name you wish to publish STEVE isnt it? not entirly transparent (do you know what transparent means Steve?)

I will repeat my previous request once again, If you have any questions or comments please direct them to me personnaly, simply google consumer contacts and you'll find us.

P.S can we do that to find you Steve? No thought Not.

Take Care.

[poppett]

Afternoon gents and ladies.

Mr Dubber your company has a site with a ranking of two and on your site you state
Are you looking for a mailing list? Consumer Marketing Lists and Direct Mailing Lists available online. If you can't find the Marketing List that performs then don't worry, you are now in the right place!
your info on you states,I work for one of the largest lead generation and consumer data companies in the u.k. We own and generate our own leads which include 48hr high street declines with 80% ltv and also generate iva's etc. we feel we are the most competitivly priced lead generation company in the u.k We believe in everybody making the most out of the consumer and provide high quality, accurate data. We dont want your business just once!

well i have to say and no I wont let you know who i am or a contact number that I have never heard of you after 20 years in finance or your company but that doesnt mean you are not credible and dont do a good job.

hELPIN HANDS COMMENTS WERE FAIR.
your post states
We Currently have tenant loan declines.

Minimum loan amount 5k £6.50 no one will pay this price for 2week old declined tenants

Minimum loan amount 15k £7.50 no one will pay this price for 2week old declined tenants

These applications are up to two week old declines with the option of loan reason, we have consolidation, car finance etc,,

Proving very popular for the generation of IVA and debt management leads.

There are a lot od IVA and debt management companies on here who are very good but they wouldnt buy them as helpin hand put.

Also you stated that they are car and other leads didnt you?

Instead of picking fights why not take on bord helpin hands and my comments and use the forum for what it is supposed to be a forum to raise matters and to offer services and to work together.

As a side issue I very much doubt that you have the right to dump this data onto another and that the consumer is aware you are sending ther data information all over the place and some other company gets the complaints you deserve.

In a nutshell this forum doesnt need your aggressive and bully boy tactics so if you havent anything positive to say or constructive to say when challenged on information then please do not post.

Good luck with selling your over priced tenant declines that are two weeks old I wish you every sucess.

[helpinhand]

Thanks poppett,

i was not tring to pick fights merely pointing out clear facts what mr. dubber has put in his original post, which everyone can read.

i completely rest my case and wish mr dubber all the luck in the world, i will leave this post with a clear mind knowing i was outlining facts thats the thread maker made, and after 6 years of being in the debt management industry myself, i know these leads will still be around for a long time to come.

wrong criteria, over priced, and the seller has a bad attitude........................... when confronted with facts so clearly in black and white for all to see.

MR X

[ravi_mi]

The way Mr. Dubbler replied to helpinhand, is really not a great example of professioanlism. We are all here using this forum for our benefit. Lets not use this to fight with each other or verbally abuse each other.

lets share good things and help each other to survive in this financial Market.

[helpinhand]

Ravi,

i could not agree more

[neildubber]

Dear all,

I do not wish to take parts in catfights or "he sais, she said"

My point is i put a product on the forum for the purpose of people who may be interested to get in touch.

I did not ask for advice.

I was not issued with advise i was issued with an opinion that was not asked for. I am for people wanting to help each other in what can be a very difficult and trying industry at times.

But to suggest "bullying tactics" have been used is somewhat dramatic and absurd.

I understand their our a select group of people on here that dont like to "play" with anyone else and are somewhat insecure about the prospect of other people sharing their "playground".

My unasked for advice is DEAL WITH IT!

This is not bullying tactics it is a response to unwanted opinions which i am fully entitled to.

I will continue to post and deal with people of a responsible and forthcoming, welcoming nature.

I am more than happy to avoid those who like to cast aspersions as a pastime as a defensive mechanism against "outsiders"

In closing, dont comment on me, i wont on you.

if you want to buy/enquire do, if you dont, dont!

good luck with all your doing and for the future.

Kind regards,

Neil

[poppett]

neil

you are of course entitled to put on a post and also to have a right to reply to the people on the forum.

Ther are lots of people on here who give lots of good advice for free and who run highley successful companies, michael anthony, cyates, 123 debt solutions, enable finance and many many more. My point was that we all as users on this forum have a right to put a point across. Rudeness and down right aggressive words and a bad attitude will never get or gain sucess. However as no one posted to say they wanted to buy the leads then I guess the proof of the pudding they are too dear and that ther isnt a market for them answers your post.

By the way many people including ourselves give tenants away for free as ther is very little money in them. But if you have a budget I dare say we could sell them to you at £2 each which is the market price for a tenant lead if that.

[acutts]

This is a discussion forum, expect discussion on offers like this - if you didn't want discussion, why offer your leads in an open forum? Also, why would you expect people to know what an AMCAT dialler is? This is a primarily web-generation forum and many people will have never been near a contact centre.

[poppett]

totally agree with you and your view on the forum , the mentioned post and the replies to it.