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    Ok I have three set of Questions :scared


    Question 1

    I have a niche that i am looking to get into. I even bought 15 or so exact domains...

    forexample

    Bluewidgets.com
    RedWidgets.com
    purplewidgets.com

    etc...

    All of them have a underlying Widget word in common. The keyword they will all rank for is going to be thier domain name matches..so they SHOULD not interfere with each other searches (unless someone searches for Widgets on its own)

    My question is

    1) Do i have to make sure Whois data (including ADDRESSES?) and ips are different for each?
    2) Does this kind of activity trigger any google alarm bells?


    Second Question

    I also have a niche not untouched..and I have few domains on that as well...
    but these domains are something like

    bluewidgets.com
    blue-widgets.com
    bluewidget.com

    etc...

    so if i want to dominate this niche do i need to:-

    1) have different domain ips and who is (i am guess yes)
    2) What other ways i can use to avoid google triggers (i am guess ip in different parts of the world?
    )


    Third Question (for those who read this far thanks!)

    Is there an easy way to transfer domain names to another person, without paying 11+ to nominet?

    Regards

    Mansoor

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    I would focus on good content and link building rather than worry about changing WHOIS details, which starts getting a bit black hat. See also:

    Search Engine Optimisation

    Rgds

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    Quote Originally Posted by accelerator View Post
    I would focus on good content and link building rather than worry about changing WHOIS details, which starts getting a bit black hat. See also:

    Search Engine Optimisation

    Rgds

    Thank your for the link, i have never had to worry about quality content but lots of people say you can not dominate a niche (i dont mena get site to number 1 but sites to 1,2,3...10) without doing this...

    Mansoor

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    Assuming you're not planning on linking each of the sites to each other (which would be a really dumb idea), having the same info is not an issue.

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    You have to remember that "Gadgets" as a keyword is very competitive and targeting "gadgets" will be a very hard fight.

    However, you may need to find more specific niche keywords.

    Most important aspect of SEO is getting more unique content and quality backlinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juhasan View Post
    You have to remember that "Gadgets" as a keyword is very competitive and targeting "gadgets" will be a very hard fight.

    However, you may need to find more specific niche keywords.

    Most important aspect of SEO is getting more unique content and quality backlinks.

    Where di i say i was going after term gadget..??

    What about having same keyword targetted sites on the same shared server?

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    If multiple sites targetting the same / closely related terms are hosted on the same IP / Class C, you stand a chance of picking up penalties. If you've already registered the domains, it's too late to worry about it now - you've marked them forever. You could get by the automated stuff by mixing up whois / hosting, but if you ever get a hand review, know that the whole lot *will* get banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendon View Post
    If multiple sites targetting the same / closely related terms are hosted on the same IP / Class C, you stand a chance of picking up penalties. If you've already registered the domains, it's too late to worry about it now - you've marked them forever. You could get by the automated stuff by mixing up whois / hosting, but if you ever get a hand review, know that the whole lot *will* get banned.
    Brendon,

    Is this multiple sites within the same niche on the same c class without being interlinked?

    i.e. I have 10 x websites all related to books, one on horror, one on sci fi etc all on the same c class but not interlinked?

    I was under the impression this was being introduced as a possible spam flag not a definate ban? [seomoz source]

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    This is going to be another one of those "it depends" answers...

    In the example you give, I think it would be fine. Clearly, it makes sense to publish separated sites for horror, sci-fi etc. Each topic is sufficiently separated from the next

    What I think they will be targetting is sites like bluewidets.com, blue-eco-widgets.com, blue-left-handed-widgets.com, and cheap-blue-widgets.com, all on the same IP / Class C, interlinked or not. It's clearly an SEO play designed to trap as much traffic as possible, without necessarily increasing user value.

    As with most things, yes, it will almost certainly be implemented as a flag, rather than an autoban. What I was referring to was the fact that by the time you are being hand reviewed, SE engineers tend to ban stuff that they don't like the smell of - automated systems seem to be set to assume your innocence, but hand reviews are pretty much looking to ban what they can.

    It generally takes some effort to get a site / network to the state where a hand review is triggered, so they are harsh with it, to make it as painful an experience as possible. Remember by the time an actual human is reviewing your sites, you've either blown through several sets of automated filters, and / or actual users have complained about you.

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    Glad you cleared that up actually, have been worrying about it a bit since I saw that post and have been thinking more on the paranoid side since althouigh your explanation makes a lot more sense!

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by gadget View Post
    Assuming you're not planning on linking each of the sites to each other (which would be a really dumb idea), having the same info is not an issue.
    why would linking each of the sites be a dumb idea?
    -because they're all on the same IP?

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    >> why would linking each of the sites be a dumb idea?

    Because of the way PageRank works, multiple sites interlinking can be interpreted as an attempt to game Googles algo. If the sites all sit on the same IP, its quite easy to detect, and quite common for certain penalties to be handed out to those sites, in order to devalue your apparent attempts to game the system



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