Big Daddy Means Big Changes At Google

**Paul Wright** · 26-01-06

Hey,

Just a bit of reading that I thought I'd share with you all. Matt Cutts has been banging on about BigDaddy for a while now but it's looking like the algorithm changes are not that far off. It's also promising to hear that the canonicalization and 302 redirect issue may be sorted. Well, here's hoping anyway.

http://directmag.com/searchline/1-25...ddy/index.html

For the lazy types out there see how your sites stand on the test data centers at the mo..

http://66.249.93.104
http://64.233.179.104

Cheers
Paul

**Itchy** · 27-01-06

Been reading the other thread so id thought id post something here coz it looked a little empty compared to the other thread

so whens google wheeling out giant haystack then

easy easy easy wheres me blue rinse

**monk-i** · 27-01-06

I can see Google putting more articles/reviews for research that anything else in the organics ie removing commercial sites and forcing commercial sites to use adwords. I think gradually as it moves along we'll see more of this. Thats why to still get stuff showing in the organics we need to develop content which is useful. Both research, reviews and guides etc.

**freetraff** · 31-01-06

They say it is just another datacenter. But still the cnages are big.

**john924** · 09-02-06

This is the first time I have heard about this. It looks like there is going to be some important changes that could affect a few sites.

**getvisible** · 09-02-06

I wonder if they'll mention anything at SEM NY in a couple of weeks?

**ppokyh** · 22-02-06

Why is it that pr is different for www.domain.com compared to just domain.com

**drivetowin** · 22-02-06

Its the age old Google canonical problem - to Google www.domain.com and domain.com are two separate entities and hence each has their own pr, due prinicipally to how people link to you - whether they link to www.domain.com or simply domain.com

**pricethat** · 22-02-06

Well i probably will have to eat my own words but i dont think it is as major as people might think. The problem of 302 redirects etc they say are supposed to be solved as well as more agressive duplication filters etc. If that was true and of course the data centres quoted are an example of such then it is worse than before. We employ 302 redirects, for what as a valid reason simply as a redirect. Not caring whether we are banned or not doesnt make a blind bit of difference, though i dont see why we should change as its perfectly legit. Anyway, even with 302 redirects, duplicate content and all the rest we rank much better in the new data centre and i tested a few of our hosted sites and same sort of thing for things we know we shouldnt rank for when comparing them with other sites with a computer head on. Basic page scans purely on keywords with 4-8% ratio would of been a better algo than some results i have seen.

There will be some movers like normal but i cant see it being anything too harsh. I think if it is supposed to be big then this proposed data centre is not showing anything of the new algos.

**loquax** · 02-03-06

I'm seeing quite large changes and they don't make me feel like dancing.

It looks messy from my pov but I guess there's bog all that can be done.

Does anyone know whether these DCs will reflect the new Google? Or can anyone offer a glimmer of hope

Jason

**Elaine** · 02-03-06

I think everything's still fluxing from day to day and it's going to take a while to roll out to all the DC's - we see changes everyday - one day we'll do incredibly well in one area - next day it all changes and something else takes over.

Although we bounced back early January - I've noticed some pages are still on the missing list - haven't got a clue why - yet - but untill there's some stability I'm not making any changes.

**renegade** · 05-03-06

I'm seeing really nasty results every morning ATM but some time between 3pm and 4pm the results revert to familiar rankings. This has happened both yesterday and today.
I've tested a few keywords at the two big daddy datacenters, and they're similar, at the first everything is cool, at the second it's close to a wipeout, all very scary, sitting tight here for the white knuckle ride!

**dancey** · 05-03-06

Something i've noticed with there 2 data centers:

If I do site:<mysiteaddress> it reports 126 pages (instead of the 12k pages the other datacenters have) however if I do a search for my top performing keywords then my site is still there in top 10 and it's returning pages that it didn't when I did the site: search.