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    I've tried and tried getting search engines to notice my site, but they just hate me... What am I doing wrong?
    Certain pages show up if I explicitly search for 'zfreebies', but that's pretty much it. A heap of pages are 'supplimental' on google as well, and it just refuses to index any of my forums which is just plain rude...

    I've got PPC nailed, but it seems I have a way to go with SEO as far as the search engines are concerned

    Any tips, pointers, gratefully received.

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    Think of a way to get as many links to your site as possible, the more links you get the higher up the rankings and the better your site will be indexed.. this is what works for us anyway.

    You can check the total amont of backlinks to your site here..
    http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/default.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeky View Post
    Think of a way to get as many links to your site as possible, the more links you get the higher up the rankings and the better your site will be indexed.. this is what works for us anyway.

    You can check the total amont of backlinks to your site here..
    http://www.marketleap.com/publinkpop/default.htm

    Lee
    Thanks for the reply Lee. I'll certainly try to spend more time on getting backlinks. I was thinking it was something wrong with my pages rather than just a lack of backlinks. Nice tool to check popularity as well.

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    Hi axod,

    just curious how old the site is? i'm probably stating the ovious to you but it can take months to get listed, i'm in the same boat with a site aswell and just wondered how long you've been trying/waiting?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverfern View Post
    Hi axod,

    just curious how old the site is? i'm probably stating the ovious to you but it can take months to get listed, i'm in the same boat with a site aswell and just wondered how long you've been trying/waiting?

    Cheers
    If you're waiting months to get listed, your doing something very wrong - maybe a couple of years ago that would happen, but nowadays if you link from certain places, you'll be listed in days. It's all about getting them backlinks, plus getting them from the right places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axod View Post
    I've tried and tried getting search engines to notice my site, but they just hate me... What am I doing wrong?
    Certain pages show up if I explicitly search for 'zfreebies', but that's pretty much it. A heap of pages are 'supplimental' on google as well, and it just refuses to index any of my forums which is just plain rude...
    I am no expert but as said up you need to increase you In bound links, I am trying to do this and it takes time but it seems to help with your SERP and also with how deep google crawl your site.

    Also look at your on page SEO you need to have unique page titles, and different meta desc on each page, when I looked they seemed to all be the same thats why google turns your site supplemental as it sees the pages as being similar.

    You should consider adding to your .htaccess file a redirect from www.yoursite.co.uk/index.php to just www.yoursite.co.uk/ as google could see these as two different pages so you then trigger dup penalty.

    Also you need to ensure your page on shows site one way, your page is listed both as www.yoursite.co.uk and non www.yoursite.co.uk

    Do these and it might help no guarantees
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    Not sure if you are familiar with htaccess files but if not & you dont have one then create a text file say access.txt with the following in it

    Code:
    Options +FollowSymlinks
    RewriteEngine on 
    
    #enforce www
    rewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} .
    rewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^ww\. [NC]
    rewriteRule (.*) http://www.zfreebies.co.uk/$1 [R=301,L]
    Then upload your site at the root level & rename the text file .htaccess

    This will fix your canonical problem which is causing you to haev duplicate content between http://zfreebeies.co.uk and http://www.zfreebies.co.uk which google sees as two duplicate sites right now

    After youve done it check the links above both go to the www. version of the domain

    If there are any probs then upload an empy text file and overwrite the .htaccess with an empty file to remove it

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    Keep it simple
    Keep it clean
    Keep it fresh

    and be patient...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLBG View Post
    Not sure if you are familiar with htaccess files but if not & you dont have one then create a text file say access.txt with the following in it

    Code:
    Options +FollowSymlinks
    RewriteEngine on 
    
    #enforce www
    rewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} .
    rewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^ww\. [NC]
    rewriteRule (.*) http://www.zfreebies.co.uk/$1 [R=301,L]
    Then upload your site at the root level & rename the text file .htaccess

    This will fix your canonical problem which is causing you to haev duplicate content between http://zfreebeies.co.uk and http://www.zfreebies.co.uk which google sees as two duplicate sites right now

    After youve done it check the links above both go to the www. version of the domain

    If there are any probs then upload an empy text file and overwrite the .htaccess with an empty file to remove it
    Hey OLBG thanks for that, I really hadn't realised that having it duplicated might cause problems with search engines - makes sense now. Have added that to my rewrite rules

    The site has been going since febuary last year. It's *in* google, just doesn't show up for any searches I'll concentrate on getting links etc.

    Thanks for the other advice
    Cheers

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    Ah Damn - I spent ages checking that code as I know when I do it on my own sites I always mess it up - just tried your site & its down - my fault

    Change the bit

    !^ww\. [NC]

    so there are 3 ws

    !^www\. [NC]

    if that fails then just upload the blanbk htaccess as I said above & I'll think again - or maybe someone like Aquanuke will come along and save us!

    Sorry

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    The domain was registered on October 2006. That makes it 3 months old, you need to allow something like 6-8 months on average for the sandbox filters, before you see any good results.

    Until then, add constant new content, use a google sitemap, get relevant links, your goal is to get the entire site crawled. You can check this using the site:www.zfreebies.co.uk search on google.

    Other then that just make sure all your on-page seo factors are covered, such as title tags, anchor text, relevant content, alt tags on images etc etc.

    Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OLBG View Post
    Ah Damn - I spent ages checking that code as I know when I do it on my own sites I always mess it up - just tried your site & its down - my fault

    Change the bit

    !^ww\. [NC]

    so there are 3 ws

    !^www\. [NC]

    if that fails then just upload the blanbk htaccess as I said above & I'll think again - or maybe someone like Aquanuke will come along and save us!

    Sorry
    Yeah I noticed and fixed that (I always check and understand code before I use it ), is it still down??? works from here.

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    No it seems fine now & the canonical issue is fixed

    With that done now you should soon at least have your pages indexed properly, however to get them to rank well you now need to focus on all the other good advice on this thread which basically is
    - add content
    - get links
    - be patient

    The first of these makes the second easier and then you need less of the third

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    Quote Originally Posted by axod View Post
    I've got PPC nailed, but it seems I have a way to go with SEO as far as the search engines are concerned

    Any tips, pointers, gratefully received.
    Your home page is no more than a site map. If you want the SEs to send you visitors then you have to have pages that are relevant to whatever you want people to use in the search box to find you. You would be better off having 800 pages, each focusing on one product (type) than putting everything on one page only. That way you can have some static content that can be indexed plus your daily changing offerings.

    To test your on-page relevance, look for your site in live.com and yahoo. Google is all down to finding you on whatever term you set up in your inbound links - no more, no less.

    SEs are busy little crawlers. You problems are not helped by your pages being more than 80k in length. Nor that your urls are answering to both directories and file names without extensions - i.e. /competitons/ and /competitions which is adding to the duplicate content problems.
    You are also missing a charset statement and have many meta tags which are not looked at by the robots - particularly remove the robots meta tag so that the bots don't get confused by what you want them to do

    If you don't give the SEs some content so that they can work out what you are about, then ppc is the easy way for you to go.

    The other alternative is to sign up lots of affiliates under you and let them carry the advertising costs.

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