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    SEO Secrets
    By Chris Owen

    www. PageRank leakage
    You may find that people are linking to two different URL versions of your homepage. As you know, Google indexes and ranks pages on an individual basis. But did you know http://yoursite.co.uk/ and http://www.yoursite.co.uk/ are ranked independently. If some referrers link to one version and some to the another your referrer's link value is shared somewhat. A server level 301 redirect from one to the other will solve this problem.

    Google loves Wikipedia and Wikipedia loves...
    If your website has valuable content you can find an appropriate Wikipedia entry and add your site as an external link. Wikipedia is one of the highest ranking websites on Google and there are thousands of articles with very high PageRank ready for you to add your link with whatever anchor text you like. Please do not try to shamelessly add links to your business site in the hope no one will notice, that's not what this tip is about. Only link to truly valuable content strongly related to the article. This is not always easy but some of you may benefit depending on your sector. This tip works highly effectively; I've had organic listing ranking significantly increase immediately after the article is reindexed. Again, please don't spam Wikipedia; I am an avid contributor myself.

    About the author
    Chris Owen has a Masters Degree in Computing and held a directorship of a highly successful internet company. Chris has been involved in every aspect of E-commerce from marketing to software development. Chris joined GettingPersonal in 2007 as Affiliates Manager.
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    Interesting points, but haven't Wikipedia implemented the nofollow tag that prevents PR leakage?

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    Interesting points, but haven't Wikipedia implemented the nofollow tag that prevents PR leakage?
    Yes, they implemented it a while back, that is why I am more surprised at how out of date this content is. Especially since you say
    "Chris joined GettingPersonal in 2007 as Affiliates Manager"

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    Chris you have really shown that you know very little about SEO. Rather than shh i think it should be duh

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    There's a subtle way it can help drive traffic from Google.

    Many Google searches return an appropriate Wikipedia page. In my own personal example, even though the Wikipedia external link has nofollow the actual anchor text is included in the Wikipedia result as part of the except on the Google search result for the user to follow visually.

    This can be helpful.

    There are always sites that miss the www. 301 redirect.

    Just adding to some of the other tips listed here.

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    Crickey this places gets *****ier by the day.

    Okay the guy wasn't factually 100% correct but he did supply a couple of good tips for newbies, and maybe a "Hi my name's Chris... " first post would have been slightly more appropriate, but there really is no need to get personal (no pun intended).

    Welcome to the board Chris

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    Please do correct me where I was wrong. Sorry guys Just thought I'd spend a few mins adding some tips during my break that have helped people. Thanks for the welcome Mark, been reading the forum for a few weeks will venture into the other threads soon, that's all!
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    Hi Chris,

    Personally I thought you were suggesting that posting to Wikipedia would help with PageRank and get you better rankings in the SERPs which is factually incorrect (because of the nofollow tag being implimented) - and unless you count that Wikipedia may get a higher SERPs result than your site which may generate some extra traffic other than that the benefits would be negligable.

    I've had organic listing ranking significantly increase immediately after the article is reindexed.
    Is very unlikely to be the case now I'm afraid.

    But none the less still a useful tip or two in there!

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    >> posting to Wikipedia would help with PageRank and get you better rankings in the SERPs which is factually incorrect (because of the nofollow tag being implimented)

    Wikipedia spam works just fine. Nofollow is about 90% FUD

    >> Is very unlikely to be the case now I'm afraid.

    Nope, works just fine. The trick is getting the edits to stick

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    I think that one's interesting. Because that's definitely what I experienced. There's no question that the PageRank isn't transferred but Google could still queue up the link for caching its content as explained on http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2005...low-revisited/

    My understanding is that Google does not cache every single page it finds. Pages linked off pages (e.g. a PR0 page) do not all have a cache record even though they are linked from a page which has been indexed.

    The Wikipedia page I linked off had a very high PageRank and as soon as it was reindexed my page in the external links sections was immediately cached and appeared in the top 10 Google search for a the search I was hoping it would be.

    I understand it is accepted that high PageRank sites are indexed deeper.
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    Well Brendon then I stand corrected, I know it was very badly implimented but was under the impression that absolutely no PageRank benefit would be evident. I can understand it's uses for help with getting new sites listed though, provided there is relevant content there to help hold the piece in place on WikiPedia in the first place.

    Anyway gotta go Ju_Jitsu now Be back later battered and Bruised!

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    Another SEO tip is to use press releases to drive some traffic and naturally increase your link count, there are loads of free pr submission site, some are good, some are bad.

    Write an article under 500 words about your product,site,offer. Try writing the article from a third party point of view, ie go into the mould of a customer that's used your service, bought your product etc or valuable information where your service/product might be usefull.
    Writing an offer or price lead press releases won't provide any value to anybody reading it and then won't be syndicated.

    Remember to do some link edging, ie link to other sites, .gov sites work well

    Hope this helps



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