2 .. the default or main and the Regional version of where your from, however in practice you only relaly get listed 1 time.
However it's very hard to get into 2 or more unless your something special, for example Microsoft gets in to loads and loads.
If you have a UK site then it is definitely worth trying to get it into both the relevant UK part and the relevant Global part.
You are by no means guaranteed this - it depends on the editor but its certainly possible.
To get into the global part you will have to provide a global service. So for example the following would be unlikely to get in:
- a UK shop that doesn't ship overseas
- a Freebie site that just lists UK freebies
etc.
Carl
The category you are wanting to list in does not have an editor. Maybe you could apply?
Be sure to read their guidelines thoroughly first though & always submit 3 quality recommended sites.
Might be worth a try if you've got the time to spare. Doesn't look like a very busy caetgory.
They won't accept you.
I tried taking on the freebie category (even used freebieholics as a recommendation) but my application was declined due to various reasons, the main being the site receives very few submissions and that the editalls believe there's enough links in there already!
You never know, maybe they've had a change of heart since last month
Cheers,
Freebieholics ... I know it's kind of stabbing myself in the back helping you out.. but you help me, so one good turn and all that
I have added your site to my personal bookmarks (not listed on main Dmoz but other editors can see them) anyways I have added a note along with it saying.
"Has affiliate links, however it also lists many items that are not. When following the guidelines on Dmoz I feel the content far out weights the few affiliate links found many on the homepage."
I hope that helps you when the next editor comes to view your site when you add it again. By the way here was the last 2 comments before I added mine.
"Looks to be entriely affiliate links, deleting."
"Still affiliate based. Deleting."
Anyway I don't hold much weight in the Dmoz world and I don't even edit category’s anything to do with Free Stuff, otherwise I would added you direct myself.
Darren,
How can a shopping directory not be affiliate orientated?
Cheers Clarke,
I'm gonna make some changes to my top level pages, and see how it goes.
Carl
QGJ - I don't think it can be can it! As I said earlier - I can't any of my affiliate-content sites listed in DMOZ.
Cheers,
How does a site like the second one on this list get into dmoz? (1 page site no content and 100% affiliate links)
directory.google.com/Top/...ragrances/
and it has 500 incoming links & PR6! Does DMOZ take the popularity of a site into account when they decide to list it?
I have aboslutely no idea!
I think DMOZ needs to take a long hard look at this problem. Sure they have rules, but there seems to be no enforcement of them, with regards to editors.
I can only guess that either, that one page perfume site is owned by one of the editors or that it once was a fantastic site, with warranted being list there, but was either shut down and the domain bough by someone else or they decided their fantastic site wasn't profitable and decided to replace it with what's there now.
I believe someone said earlier about creating a site with excellent content, no affiliate links, then submitting it to DMOZ. Once listed, then replacing the whole site with an affiliate-link-farm. I think, realistically, that's the only way to get listed in DMOZ with a slightest hint of affiliate promotions. Either that, or be lucky enough to become an editor of one of the commercial categories - which is never going to happen.
If I may take this topic a little further......I decided to test DMOZ's application proceedure by making up a false profile. (I should firstly point out that even if I had been accepted, I would have refused the position).
I created a whole new person - a real specialist in a particular niche market of a non-profitable category. This particular category had no editor, but seemed to have a high-level editor (who is allowed to edit all the categories beneath it) who liked to fiddle it, so to speak. And, for those of you who don't know, applications to become editor are delt with one of these higher-placed (up the hierarchical ladder of categories) editall editors.
Anyway, although the profile I created was almost the perfect candidate for this particular category, I was refused by this editor because, and I quote 'this category doesn't require an editor'. A shame really, when DMOZ's ambition is to have a specialist editor for EVERY category. So anyway, this category now remains without an editor, but this editall editor has the jurisdiction to abuse his/her position by screening all submissions to all these minor categories.
Food for thought, I think.
Isn't it about time DMOZ employed a complaints procedure and a policy to remove such editors and abused submissions?
Cheers,
ShowYouLoveThem - it seems we replied at the same time!
No, DMOZ doesn't take a PageRank into account. A submission is delt with by an editor and it's up to the editor whether the submission should be validated or not. Although an editor could chose to look at the PR, I very much doubt any of them do. An editor should simply take a look at the submitted link and judge it's suitablility based on relevance and content. If the site is very good content-wise, but submitted to the wrong category, the editor may move the submission (or 'offer it') to an editor of a more appropriate category.
Cheers,
You have got the solution in a nutshell
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I believe someone said earlier about creating a site with excellent content, no affiliate links, then submitting it to DMOZ. Once listed, then replacing the whole site with an affiliate-link-farm. I think, realistically, that's the only way to get listed in DMOZ with a slightest hint of affiliate promotions. Either that, or be lucky enough to become an editor of one of the commercial categories - which is never going to happen.
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Just a question of how long to wait until from submission to acceptance, probably need to forward plan several months
I remember speaking to an affilate at a function, whom mentioned he was an editor, and that it was the best way to get accepted.
Obviously a vast majority of editors have etiquette, but a lot saw the advantage of pushing their own interests.
Therefore, an "unethical solution" is for about a dozen affiliates to club together to become editors of varying self interests related to the group and cross-approve each other.
Surely it can't be that bad, there must be a better solution.
Originally Posted by RewardSites
To add my two-penny worth
I am a Dmoz editor - only 'small time' for the Lowestoft category.
It's been a worthwhile experience and the one thing I've learned is just how polictical the whole set up is.
JF is right - the ruling on affiliate linked sites has always been the same. However, it all depends on who the category editor is (and whether you're the category editor, and chose to validate your own submissions
It doesn't take long to surf around Dmoz and notice a category which, in theory, could have a few 100 links in, because the subject area is dynamic and would benefit from a diverse range of links from the mamouth number of websites out there. In practice, some categories which warrant 100's of links only have a few - why? Because the category editor is managing to falsify the marketshare.
I personally don't have any of my affiliate linked sites in Dmoz. Sure, I've tried - but it just ain't worth the effort because the two categories I submit to are held by two individuals who won't allow any competition. However, my two most profitable sties both have PR6 on google, without a Dmoz or Yahoo listing, so I don't worry.
I would begin to question the weight of being listed on Dmoz now.....sure it's a quick way to get indexed by Google and get your site upto PR4 without any incoming links other than Dmoz, but in the long run, I don't think it matters too much at all.
Cheers,
I've been trying for years to get my website into DMOZ but for some reason it hasn't been accepted. If anyone could shed any light on this then it would be very much appreciated as it really does help your ranking and traffic through to your site.
Thanks
Lee
Wow, A post from December 2002. That's some pretty good diggin skills
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