Getting a top organic listing on Google

[m-a-hudson]

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I'm currently paying Overture on a CPC basis. I'm looking to achieve a high organic rating with Google (isn't everyone!) There are companies who specialise in this. One which caught my eye was:

http://www.123ranking.co.uk/

This company guarantee you website inclusion and a minimum of 50 top 10 positions in main search engines. "One of the few companies brave enough to tell you the truth. If we can't help, we won't take your money!"

Any thoughts?

[rich71111]

read the small print, always read the small print, some of these will guarantee top results but don't guarantee they will be for searched for phrases, they could get you the top for keywords like "where to purchase bt broadband at great rates with a 3 month trial and free modem" etc, keywords that won't add any value but legally they have done their job!

Be warned.

[Shane]

yeah I once had a cold call by a now dead company staffed by some nice irish fellows.. ran like this

gimp : sir we can guarantee you top ten listings for search terms of your choice..
me : ok.. I'm not greedy I'll just have "credit cards", "unsecured loans","secured loans", "mortgages" please
gimp : ha ha very good sir.. what we would do is suggest you look a little more focussed at one particular area
me : ok.. "unsecured loans" "cheap unsecured loan" "best unsecured loan" etc...
gimp : well we'd probably break it down even more sir..
me : ah more like "best unsecured loan rate for a male over 39 with a prosthetic limb" .. thanks but no thanks..
gimp : well no sir not quite but we would look at 3 to 5 work phrases more closely
me : thanks but no thanks.. that would be the 3 to 5 word phrases my dog could rank for..
gimp : click brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrr

anyone that GUARANTEES you top 3 listings for your search phrase's is full of crap.. they won't be your ideal phrases when they've done "Helping" you to "focus". and depending who you pick.. your site will be screwed once they've done their "optimising" as they may use techniques that get it stung if caught.

[drivetowin]

They cant even do what they say on their website

"We're always top in the main search engines under search terms like - search engine ranking"

Errm - not in the top 100 for search engine ranking either global or uk only results - but they are in the sponsored ads...

[m-a-hudson]

They cant even do what they say on their website

"We're always top in the main search engines under search terms like - search engine ranking"

Errm - not in the top 100 for search engine ranking either global or uk only results - but they are in the sponsored ads...

Well spotted, I hadn't got that far! Not a great advert for them really is it if they can't even get their own site organically listed! Thanks

[pricethat]

What others have said is true, most of the time they will get you ranked for rubbish. I have number 1 rankings out of results of more than 10 million sometimes but for obscure terms that no one would ever ever search for.

But to comment on some seo companies getting their own sites ranked, i think that it would be wrong to say that some companies cant do the job if they themselves are not ranked for their industry as there must be a million and one companies hitting those keywords, if you took that as an indication then you would only consider the companies that were in the top ten, when for the most part theres probably hundreds and thousands of real people that CAN do the job.

Personal feedback from others would be the way to decide, but also maybe examples of work that they have done that you can trace as being done by them.

[matbennett]

The advice that I always give is that an SEO company that has to rely on cold calling can't be too good at SEO.