Would this work?

[Sammy aff]

I know there are a few real good seo's on here, so I was hoping for some thoughts or reasons why this could or could not work.

Anyhow, about 12 months ago my main site was hijacked, I don't know if purposely or by accident, I err with purposely because they do not reply to my emails. Within 2/3 months my site was wiped out of google PR0 from a PR6 and replaced with the hijackers site, all it is, is a single page with my contact details and address, the address is wrong btw.

To contact me from their page; email for instance goes through some crazy js routine I suspect for tracking purposes, or I did think that...the link to my site goes through another huge url string and eventually gives a 302 to my site. I believe these are classic hijacking techniques (google don't want to know btw) I have not been hurt in yahoo or MSN just google.

I know yahoo treats 302's differently but I'm surprised still ok in MSN.

Anyhow what I had in mind was to create a page on my site, which would be a 302 in .htaccess file redirecting to their landing page for my site, in effect trying to hijack my own site back?

I just read that back, it sounds a bit double dutch I know, but I hope someone knows what I mean...could this work or totally crazy?

[andy_jacko]

if you have control of domain and the hosting, why not undo the hijack.

then contact google and explain to them what happened tell them its fixed and hope for the best, it has been known for penalisation to be removed in situations like this.

[pricethat]

God, that was double dutch. Just delete what the hackers uploaded!!!!!! You have ftp enough to put your own page up so you can equally delete what is there. Had you just deleted what they put there when you noticed it happened you probably would not be banned.

Once you put your own content back up there then just sent a re-inclusion request to google. Simple.

[valD]

Yes, I'm puzzled too. If you can upload to your site, you can just replace the content from your backup (you did keep a backup of the site, didn't you?). And don't forget to change the password!

[mikey_freedom]

Errm...guys..sammy_aff said hijacked not hacked. 302 Google jacking, whatever you want to call it where a site (A) linking to another site (B) assumes the content and position of B in the eyes of Google. Although it seems at the start of 2006 Google were claiming that in 99% of cases this wouldn't be the case I've seen it replicated since. Sorry Sammy, don't know whether the return hijacking would work but the post did make sense

[Sammy aff]

Thanks for clarifying mike, it is sort of hard to explain what I have in mind.

Google claims 99% success, even if that were true I expect that would still leave millions affected. Scanning forums and stuff I still think google has a major problem still. Do you remember the famous adsense hijack, it didn't take them long to sort that one out!

[Sammy aff]

For guys unsure what I'm on about, these guys give the best explanation I can find in plain english

http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack.htm

[valD]

Originally Posted by mikey_freedom Errm...guys..sammy_aff said hijacked not hacked. 302 Google jacking, whatever you want to call it where a site (A) linking to another site (B) assumes the content and position of B in the eyes of Google. Although it seems at the start of 2006 Google were claiming that in 99% of cases this wouldn't be the case I've seen it replicated since. Sorry Sammy, don't know whether the return hijacking would work but the post did make sense

Oops! Sorry sammy. Wish I could help.

[andy_jacko]

sorry

[T.J.]

Have you tried trying to outrank the attacker?
Change the content completely, set up about 5 interlinking pages
(all linking back to main page using absolute links)
Then point a large number of High PR links at the main page from multiple sites.

[Sammy aff]

Originally Posted by T.J. Have you tried trying to outrank the attacker? Change the content completely, set up about 5 interlinking pages (all linking back to main page using absolute links) Then point a large number of High PR links at the main page from multiple sites.

I can't outrank in google, cos I am pr0 ziltch, not in googles index "banned"

I have a duplicate content penaly, cos of the 302 the hijacker uses; google believes the url belongs to me.

I'm surprised no one has heard of this, there have been many big stories over the past 12 months.
Matt cutts (google blog) hijacked
Google adsense hijacked
business.com PR0 from pr7 (much like my own) however this particular "hijack" was business.com's own fault;nevertheless the exact same nett effect, their programmer, to solve canonical issues, used .htaccess to redirect none www- to +www. But he used 302 redirect rather than the safe 301 redirect, a simple mistake maybe but I guess he never can live it down
Wouldn't like to be in his shoes!

[Sammy aff]

I'll try to explain (my ears are burning, what the **** is this guy on about )

301 redirect = page moved permanently, no problems googlebot

302 redirect = page moved temp, big problems googlebot because the bot does not know which is the original, so it will make a "guess" yep a guess, to which is the original page. Googlebot thinks the 302 redirect is identicle to the page giving out the 302, hence two identicle page/s in googles eyes, the bots will then drop one of the page/s in google index. More often than not it will be the victims page/site.

It was once said the page with higher PR would "win" for indexing purposes, this was proved untrue when the google adsense login page was hijacked.(PR10) and also when, matt cutts aka googleguy (i think) anyhow works for google )) blog was hijacked (pr7)

I'm absolutely certain these hijacks were done to bring these problems to peoples attention and make google take action, no malicious intent was deployed.

http://www.jensense.com/archives/200...adsense_4.html