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Hello Everyone.

I have a few affiliate marketing ideas, all of which require a website (as opposed to pure PPC).

I have some very limited experience in different versions of BASIC, Pascal and Visual Basic for Applications (Excel macros and that sort of thing) years and years ago. Therefore I understand basic programming concepts.

Some of my ideas would require a dynamic database-driven site. I have chosen to try and develop skills in:

* HTML
* PHP
* MySQL
* Bit of Photoshop for the pretty pictures

Also I will obviously need an understanding of SEO, PPC, hosting and so on.

Does anyone think I am going bit overboard, and would it be better to start with simpler static sites in HTML?

I'm such a beginner, I don't even know what tools such a static site would be built with - Notepad? Dreamweaver 8 seems pretty powerful, but I've always thought real developers don't use it. Are there disadvantages (SEO?) to using Dreamweaver? Can you use different server-side scripting languages (e.g. PHP) in Dreamweaver?

Any general pointers for a total novice gratefully received!
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Welcome to the forum.

Your choice sounds pretty good to me, if you're used to programming it shouldn't take you long to get to grips with php and MySql.

You can build sites in Notepad but I think you'll find it much easier with something like Dreamweaver. I can't comment on Dreamweaver 8 as my versions of Dreamweaver dates from 2004 and I've never seen any reason to upgrade, but it works just fine for coding php for me.
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

I'd use whatever tools you're most comfortable with.
I think you're either a "GUI, drag and drop things, etc", or a "Command line, text editor rules" person.

For PHP I like jedit personally, just a nice text/programmers editor, with syntax highlighting, open multiple files on tabs, etc etc. It does all I need.

Sounds like you have the right idea though. The nice thing about PHP is that you can start to use it when you like.

eg make a basic html page...

Code:
<html><head><title>Example #1</title></head>
<body>
Hello world!
</body>
</html>
(Save that as index.php),
then think to yourself "Hmm, it'd be cool to put the time in there as well

Code:
<html><head><title>Example #1</title></head>
<body>
Hello world! The unixtime is <?=time();?>
</body>
</html>
So you can start with a basic HTML website, and then start to add extra functionality and dynamism to it. Then add in some mysql as well and you're away.
Once you get to more complicated stuff you'll want to separate php into functions, different files, maybe use some oo design.

I'd say just start with html, then start integrating php into it, then add mysql.

Good luck, and welcome to the forum.
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Welcome to the forum Mark.

You sound like you have similar skills to me so my only question would be why don't you learn asp.net instead? I've stuck by the MS camp only because I find Unix a bit alien and am getting to long in the tooth to go down a different road.

ASP.net has a lot in common with VB so you should find it quite easy to learn.

MySQL is a good choice and you can use it quite happily with ASP.net.

Good luck with you sites!
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Hi - Dreamweaver is a pretty good place to start if you feel you are lacking in the HTML dept. If you're feeling a little more confident I'd strongly recommending coding in Notepad though. Can create all your HTML, JS & CSS and have total control. Dreamweaver tends to enjoy creating CSS styles for EVERYTHING and just tends to over complicate things in my opinion! Good Luck! If you need any help with XHTML, CSS or JS just pm me
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Hi Mark,

Welcome to A4U. Learning those skills could take a while, though it is very possible. You might want to consider a shortcut and use ready made CMS sites such as Joomla. They are great for learning too as you can easily customise it and learn your skills while doing so. And they have some great tools for affiliates too. I'm sure there are other CMS tools out there but Joomla is my favourit
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Many thanks for your helpful advice.

I chose PHP over ASP.NET purely because it seems the developer community is a bit more friendly. While I have done a bit of VBA, this was years ago so it makes no real difference.

Seems I'm vaguely on the right road.

Do real developers use Dreamweaver though?
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

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Do real developers use Dreamweaver though?
Personally I'd say no. It's probably similar to using an IDE when coding. Watching someone use one is painful - they go to a menu, click on "new function", then click on the parameters, maybe type a letter, then a popup appears and they select "String", etc etc
It's easier and quicker just to type the damn thing!
(I haven't actually used dreamweaver, so perhaps this is totally wrong)

I'd say that most LAMP developers just use a decent text editor though.
edit: (LAMP = Linux Apache Mysql PHP)
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

My biggest hint is read as much of this forum as you can. Go through old threads. Make notes. Bookmark urls and read everything you can for a couple of weeks.
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Many thanks for your helpful and friendly advice. I'm sure I'll make some missteps along the way!
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  Re: Advice needed for a total beginner

Hi, I would say keep is simple if at all possible. I use html code wriiten on Notepad. This will give you complete control over the design and you can also design with search engines in mind. This is fine if you only have a small number of products or links (or a lot time).

Having said that, I am now looking for a new shopping cart or web site builder program. I need to be able to upload the products with a data feed similar to those from our affiliates (xls?). It must be google friendly, simple and easy to use. I would like it to produce a true page for each item with its own keyword tags etc. also with several departments and categories. It must be capable of having target="_blank" links to the affiliate sites. Can anyone offer any advice on which to go for or any to avoid. I have produced my own pages previously as I only had a small number of items to sell but now I am affiliating I have too many to do manually.

Cheers, Phil.
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